IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?

[Sam Peppiatt]

PeterAX,

The simplest way to build a Bessler / Gravity wheel is with pendulums. They swing out on the down side and back in on the up side. The theory at least is a no brainer.

How dose the zig zag work? Some how you have to prevent back forces. Have you found a way to do that? Sam Peppiatt

[PeterAX]

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Hi there,
1) But just because of the fact that there are too many designs and modifications my request was to tell me which are the two or, let's say, the three simplest ones. But it's OK, I will follow your advice -- will find one myself and will read it.
2) Is there some Bessler wheel working prototype?

[PeterAX]

To Sam Peppiatt.
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Thank you for your reply.
1) I did not understand very well the concept of this pendulum-related Bessler/Gravity wheel. Would you be so polite to send some drawings with the related explanations?
2) Back forces? Back in relation to (relative to) what? Please specify what exactly do you mean by using the term "back forces".
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Looking forward to your answer.

[Sam Peppiatt]

PeterAX,

Maybe back force isn't the best term to use. Let me start over. Most land based vehicles push off from the ground, boats push off from the water and airplanes push off from the air, jets and rockets push off from there exhaust.

In all cases they push off from some thing. For centrifugal propulsion the weights push off from the vehicle it's self. This produces motion in the back direction, which tends to cancel out any forward motion.

I'm suggesting that for a successful C.F. drive it too has to have something to push off from. Maybe a spring mounted 90 degrees to the direction of travel.
"Somehow" for a better word, it, the drive, would push off from this spring. For a land based vehicle, then, the reaction forces would be directed downward.

PeterAx, I think this is what you have to consider-------------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

PeterAX,

Follow up. Maybe it's the other way around. The action force is down, and the reaction force moves the vehicle forward. Some how that makes more sense-----------------Sam

[PeterAX]

To Sam Peppiatt.
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Hi there,
Thank you for your two replies.
1) Yes, I understood what you meant. But this is not the case. This is something entirely different. And in the nearest future (may be next week) we will share our computer simulation/animation of our device's principle of operation here in this forum. (Doing a correct computer simulation/animation is not an easy job.)
2) A few words about the pendulum-related Bessler/Gravity wheel? (If it is not a technology secret of yours, of course.)

[Sam Peppiatt]

PeterAx,

You lost me-------------my level of understanding is pretty low, I don't have a clue what you are trying to do----------my mistake.

A Gravity wheel is very simple and hardly a secret; its been known for hundreds of years. The weights shift out on the down side and back in on the up side.
But how to do that isn't so easy. Pendulums are the only way to get the weights back up to the top of the wheel. Sense they swing back and forth it's the easiest way to shift / swing the weights out on the down side, and back in on the up side. And they can't just swing out they have to lock to the wheel going down.
The pendulums go around and around in a circle, but don't rotate. Do to the relative motion between the two, each pendulum acts like a small gravity motor which winds up a spring, (of coarse the wheel has to be turning for this to happen). Then energy in the spring flips the pend. out and up on the down side.
Anyway that's what's supposed to happen. I apologize for going on and on about it---------------------Sam

[PeterAX]

To Sam Peppiatt.
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Hi Sam,
Thank you for your reply.
Well, it seems to be clear, more or less. May be something like the two links below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNEPcYlDENM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnKjv9hnepE
This is the basic design, isn't it?

[Sam Peppiatt]

PeterAX No, it's not like that---------------Sam

[PeterAX]

To Sam Peppiatt.
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Hi Sam,
Ok, you wrote that is not like the two machines in the two links of my last post. What it is then? Could you share some suitable and most illustrative link(s)?

[Sam Peppiatt]

PeterAX, No, sorry I'm a dunce with computers. However I'll take another stab at trying to describing it.

The wheel is an aluminum disc 18" in diameter and 1/2 inch thick. It has three pendulums 9 inches long, evenly spaced 120 degrees apart that swing back and forth, and hang down from a bolt at the rim of the wheel.

They swing out on the down side, 3: O'clock for CW rotation, and back in on the up side, at leased that's what they are supposed to do. I'm having a lot of trouble on the up side. They, the pends, want to swing out on the upside as well, which screws every thing up.

I don't know how to resolve it-------------------Sam

[PeterAX]

To Sam Peppiatt.
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Hi Sam,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
Good explanation indeed! Need some time to consider your last post's text carefully. This Bessler wheel's basic principle seems to be quite sophisticated and not very easy for a quick understanding. I will write to you in the nearest future to discuss the construction.
Regards,

[Sam Peppiatt]

PeterAX,

I may have figured it out! It's more about latching and unlatching than swinging. Give me a few days to implement it / try it out----------Sam

[PeterAX]

Hi Sam,
Thank you for your reply.
Ok, I am waiting for your implementation.
Regards,

[PeterAX]

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Hi there,
1) First of all thank you for evaluating of my post as a nice one. Thanks a lot!:)
2) Sam promised already to send some more detailed explanations related to the basic Bessler wheel's principle. But let me ask you the same question: do you have some idea how this sophisticated machine works?
Looking forward to your answer.