Sorry to disagree with you but an odd number of weights does not change in every 180 degrees. It changes every 360 divided by number of weights, for nine that is 40 degrees.
You're right about that! It's just too bad that there is not some way of keeping that odd weight on one of the wheel's side at all times...
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
You're right about that! It's just too bad that there is not some way of keeping that odd weight on one of the wheel's side at all times...
Good example of thinking of the obvious. When trouble shooting my luck has always taken me to the in-obvious. Instead of trying to keep the weight on one side store it in the center directly on top of the axle. Pat it on the paw and the cat will chase the mouse and replace it. Unfortunately it leaves a gap or missing feather in the peacocks tail but what is one feather to a flock.
Instead of trying to keep the weight on one side store it in the center directly on top of the axle.
is that, after it has rotated the wheel's descending side, that odd weight will have to be lifted up to get it to the top of the axle. That requires an input of energy...probably exactly as much as is created in its dropping on the descending side of the wheel to accelerate it in the first place. It sounds like a no win situation to me.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Now, reconcile all this with Bessler's statement that one half of his wheel remained 'wonderfully' empty or some such....
Peace,
TS
As most of humanity suffers under tyrants, misled by the devil and his cohorts who've recently been thrown down here, nothing short of Yahshua, King of Kings, will remove these oppressors and bring everlasting peace.
Bessler's statement that one half of his wheel remained 'wonderfully' empty or some such has a simple explanation. I believe that he was making reference to the fact that much of the interior space of the drum was actually empty space! The mechanisms for shifting the weights so as to maintain the wheel's imbalance were all placed near the rim of the wheel. This left so much empty space around the axle that Bessler could allow visitiors to place their hands into a hole in the concealing oiled cloth covering to grope around near the axle and verify that there were no weights or other mechanisms attached to the solid axle of a wheel.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Good point, how could it have been otherwise........
Peace,
TS
As most of humanity suffers under tyrants, misled by the devil and his cohorts who've recently been thrown down here, nothing short of Yahshua, King of Kings, will remove these oppressors and bring everlasting peace.
Was drilling my weights in a v-block last night when the stringy cuttings whipped my hands and made three deep cuts.
Nothing a strong bandaid couldn't close over though.
Well, I haven't fallen and hit my head like JEEB did.
Wore gloves today drilling the rest of them.
I'm going all out on quality and craftsmanship on this model.
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
Sorry to hear about your accident. Yes, metal shavings from drilling operations can be nasty...especially if one gets one in the eye.
I think your unfortunate experience should be a wake up call for the other member here who are attempting the construction of physical models and using power tools.
Safety first...ALWAYS wear adequate hand, eye, and respiratory protection. It only takes a second of something unanticipated happening to result in an expensive (not to mention painful!) trip to the emergency room...
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Trying to figure out what was real and what was fallacy is truly just as much part of the mystery that Bessler has left us! Everyone on this board has their own humble opinions on what was fact and what was fiction. I think trying to constrain your ideas on what Bessler stated could be a mistake as much as being on the right track. It would be better to focus on the physical facts that were presented. That is by observers, wheel appearance, observations etc. Bessler was way too paranoid about letting his secret out to be fully trusted. The search continues!
Yes, I try to base as much of my own Bessler research on what others had to say about his wheels as possible. However, that does not mean that I completely ignore Bessler own "hints". In the event that another inventor independently created or reversed engineered his design, Bessler had to have some published written description of how his wheel worked if he ever hoped to claim priority on the design.
Yes, there probably is some elaborate code in his writings that describes the mystery mechanism in detail, but I hold out little hope of it ever being discovered. That code would be so devised that only Bessler could unlock its information if and when it was needed.
However, I do think that most of his general statements about the mode of operation of his wheels are accurate, but, unfortunately, so vague as to be of little use for the inventor seeking to duplicate his invention.
Thus, we learn that the wheels are mostly empty space and that the mechanism is confined to the region near the rim. We know that it uses an array of rotating weights whose CG is maintained to one side of the containment drum's axle at all times for the one-directional wheels. His machines produce some sounds and 8 gentle impact sounds can be heard on the descending side of the wheel during rotation indicating that there are 8 mechanisms involved that are shifting weights on the descending side of the wheel.
Aside from this we know little more. Is this enough to reverse engineer his design? My answer is "Yes...and no". The clues tell us a general direction ot look in, but they stop there and we are on our own. I feel that this now leaves us with only the "hit or miss" approach to a general solution to the Bessler mystery. We must try one design after another, try to understand why failure resulted, and then move on to the next design in which the problems of the prior one are eliminated or minimized. I can see no other way...the road ahead will be long and hard, but the reward of future success is all that will be necessary for the strongest of seekers to stay motivated and moving...
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
