Number 135 is almost the entire mechanism minus the prime mover.
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Number 135 is almost the entire mechanism minus the prime mo
Number 135 is the real deal. But it doesn’t show the prime mover.
I’m abandoning everything else I’ve been pursuing, to concentrate on this setup. I can see it has all been headed for long running stillness.
But not now. I have something.
I’m abandoning everything else I’ve been pursuing, to concentrate on this setup. I can see it has all been headed for long running stillness.
But not now. I have something.
re: Number 135 is almost the entire mechanism minus the prim
I would have agreed with you had you said any other number.
Agreed, it show ideal weight position.
Agreed, it shows overlapping mechanisms.
Many MTs show ideal weight position.
You can overlap any mechanism.
So what is so special about 135? As-is, it is very high friction, does not show any actuators, and doesn't even hint at a prime mover. It also doesn't hint at possible applications of "connectedness", doesn't show any of the "good qualities" of early MTs and doesn't fit any clues as far as I see.
Agreed, it show ideal weight position.
Agreed, it shows overlapping mechanisms.
Many MTs show ideal weight position.
You can overlap any mechanism.
So what is so special about 135? As-is, it is very high friction, does not show any actuators, and doesn't even hint at a prime mover. It also doesn't hint at possible applications of "connectedness", doesn't show any of the "good qualities" of early MTs and doesn't fit any clues as far as I see.
re: Number 135 is almost the entire mechanism minus the prim
Ok. I’ve completed the prime mover and it works. Amazingly it doesn’t change centers, and provides a little less than 3lbs pull in a straight line.
The 42� wheel faceplate it’s attached to turns and coasts easy to a stop without the PM causing it. The wheel stops at a different place each time it’s pushed to turn a little.
The 42� wheel faceplate it’s attached to turns and coasts easy to a stop without the PM causing it. The wheel stops at a different place each time it’s pushed to turn a little.
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MT135 - as-is - just shows a basic over-balancing interaction; inputting GPE and outputting rotational KE in the clockwise direction, or else outputting linear work if counter-rotated. Either way, both input and output workloads are in the terrestrial reference frame, therefore no energy anomaly is possible.
I suspect most folk, like me, assume it's merely depicting a basic transmission principle.. the workloads could be gravitational, or inertial (chaning MoI), but are inevitably likely to involve both.
Any real merits it may possess must therefore pertain to its usefulness in causing the reference frame of whatever the input workload to become inertially decoupled from the ground / KE frame (ie., somehow helping to sidestep Newton's 3rd).
I suspect most folk, like me, assume it's merely depicting a basic transmission principle.. the workloads could be gravitational, or inertial (chaning MoI), but are inevitably likely to involve both.
Any real merits it may possess must therefore pertain to its usefulness in causing the reference frame of whatever the input workload to become inertially decoupled from the ground / KE frame (ie., somehow helping to sidestep Newton's 3rd).
re: Number 135 is almost the entire mechanism minus the prim
I will chose a design that doesn’t have any dead spots but will revolve when pushed and not come to a halt with a clunk, but more like a flywheel. Then apply the prime mover to it to convert straight line motion to circular motion.
Aside: I’ve been on this board for quite awhile and I have transmitted a lot of excitement a few times over what I’m doing but never have I ever claimed anything or any part of anything worked, until now.
Aside: I’ve been on this board for quite awhile and I have transmitted a lot of excitement a few times over what I’m doing but never have I ever claimed anything or any part of anything worked, until now.
re: Number 135 is almost the entire mechanism minus the prim
Good luck axel !
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What goes around, comes around.
re: Number 135 is almost the entire mechanism minus the prim
@daxwc
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Search Google Books for: Five Hundred Seven Mechanical Movements. Free downloads or you can buy a book.
re: Number 135 is almost the entire mechanism minus the prim
Yep thanks, but it is hard to envision them in motion.
What goes around, comes around.
MT135 is similar to MT15 if you look solely at the weights and connecting rods that move radially inward and outward in MT15, and MT15 does refer to the existence of the prime mover.
Since MT15 is a 2D illustration, we cannot see into the Z plane, but there must be depth as all the radial rods cannot pass through the same point on the axel.
MT135 must just show how you could arrange the connecting rods on the axel so they can move without interfering with each other.
Since MT15 is a 2D illustration, we cannot see into the Z plane, but there must be depth as all the radial rods cannot pass through the same point on the axel.
MT135 must just show how you could arrange the connecting rods on the axel so they can move without interfering with each other.
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The King of creation
O my soul, praise Him
For He is thy health and salvation
All ye who hear, now to His temple draw near
Praise Him in glad adoration
Praise to the Lord
Who o'er all things so wonderfully reigneth
Shelters thee under His wings
Yea, so gladly sustaineth
Hast thou not seen how thy desires e'er have been
Granted in what He ordaineth
Praise to the Lord
Who doth prosper they work and defend thee
Surely His goodness and mercy here daily attend thee
Ponder anew what the Almighty can do
If with His love He befriend thee
Praise to the Lord, O let all that is in me adore Him
All that hath life and breath
Come now with praises before Him
Let the 'amen' sound from His people again
Gladly for aye we adore Him.
re: Number 135 is almost the entire mechanism minus the prim
The Fifth Sunday of Lent was 2 days ago. A day late and a quarter short ;) Two days late a half dollar short? Anway...Amen!
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The words to the hymn “Praise to the Lord, the Almighty� trace their origins to the year 1680 and their author, a man named Joachim Neander. Born 1650 in Bremen, and whose father was named Johann.
1680 is also the year Johann Bessler was born.
The words pasted above are from a translation by Katherine Winkworth in 1863.
1680 is also the year Johann Bessler was born.
The words pasted above are from a translation by Katherine Winkworth in 1863.
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I can’t describe anything because it would be judged forever as “prior art�. According to the lawyer, not until the provisional patent application is filed.
The US is a “first to file� not “first to invent� country.
The US is a “first to file� not “first to invent� country.
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re: Number 135 is almost the entire mechanism minus the prim
Hi axel,
may I ask you some questions.
which version of the wheel do you have, selfstarting or started with a fingerpush/pull
and of course, does it hurt any on Newton's laws ?
may I ask you some questions.
which version of the wheel do you have, selfstarting or started with a fingerpush/pull
and of course, does it hurt any on Newton's laws ?
Best regards
Georg
Georg