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Except when they are really cute and well behaved, then it is down to just being lucky.
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/washingto ... -anonymous

So the Washington Post lied. The other liberal news all reported the lie. The biggest problem is after giving it coverage for days I never even seen the retraction story on NBC or CNN. The liberal media in the US is a bunch of agenda driven brain washing drivel. How many millions of American actually still believe the lie because of the toned down and hidden correction.

Trump should sue the Washington Post they reported the story without evidence.
“CNN even boasted on air that its own reporter "confirmed" the bogus details of the call."
An even bigger lie so where is the accountability?



"Almost the entirety of the Russia collusion media effort was based on anonymous sources which turned out to be overblown at best, false at worst, after the Mueller Report was released," Jacobson continued. "This raises the question of whether these sources exist at all, or are fed the answers the liberal media wants to create the appearance of reporting for what in reality is a regurgitation of media talking points."
If you believe anything in today’s news politically left or right without balance of reading all news you are living in their echo chamber a mushroom in the dark. That includes Fox News; end of rant.
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I've watched this video a number of times and can't understand how this officer can justify his actions...why did'nt he fire a warning shot ...what danger was he in..a woman attempting/ climbing through a window was obviously disadvantaged and easy to evict/stop......has he even been disciplined for his actions ?
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rasselasss wrote:I've watched this video a number of times and can't understand how this officer can justify his actions...why did'nt he fire a warning shot ...
IIRC most police jurisdictions don't allow "warning shots" as policy; There is the danger of the shot hitting innocent bystanders/property; It would give the potential attacker a chance to shoot the officer or get in closer; and most likely wouldn't warn off the attacker (who might well be hyped up on drugs and/or never notice it.)
Therefore officers are trained (and told) to shoot to kill instead of taking the risk...
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https://www.rt.com/usa/518709-project-v ... ork-times/

About damn time. I noticed Trump yesterday brought up their big win not to have the case dismissed. Although all the major liberal main stream news outlets will not give a voice to Trump or the topic so you might not have heard about it.
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daxwc wrote:ME Quote:
wrote:(If only you guys could distinguish socialism and social programs...)
If only you could realise USA can not do what Holland is doing.

50% of Americans pay no taxes.
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I realize that most of the 'Western world'-government is capable of being a bit social towards the people who elected them, as well as in the Netherlands as even in Canada.

I realize that in the uSA about half of those elected are unwilling because they have some inflicted fear of helping people or something in the ballpark of what Raj wrote earlier.

I think half of the uSA does not realize that when you help out those on the lowest scale of the wealth balance, sure within reason, that the whole balance will tilt positively.
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues ... f-poverty/

But as "reasonable people" maybe some should follow suit with their Republican representatives to also 100% reject that Covid relief bill by just plain refusing any 'socialist' relief money or pay it back in full immediately once received; -or as alternative try to see the conflicting nature of representation.

I am glad for the USA that there is finally a president who also cares at least a little about someone else - as he should - as why he was legitimately elected.
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ME wrote:I realize that most of the 'Western world'-government is capable of being a bit social towards the people who elected them...
It's called 'socialism' when helping the poor and 'subsidy' when helping the rich. Must be a right wing thing?
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I am glad for the USA that there is finally a president who also cares at least a little about someone else - as he should - as why he was legitimately elected.
The only thing Biden has cared about his whole political career is filling the Biden family pockets. Never mistake the greed of power for caring.
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The law states that a person "Is innocent until proven guilty" but nowadays that seems to have disappeared...social media, biased news coverage and the internet seems to have changed this outcome and events taken place before trial influencing the outcome.......Two cases because of their high profile and worldwide interest i've been interested in, i have to wonder where 12 jurors could be found without opinions before trial........Did Chauvin get a fair trial...dismissed after arrest...council awarded 20 odd million dollars to the family of the deceased....the BLM riots....jury not isolated from outside world..and Biden speaking out when the jury was sitting........Ghisane Maxwell held now for 9 months without trial .......I have to ask who has'nt seen the video of Chauvin or read about Maxwell and formed an influenced opinion.......Where can 12 unbiased jurors be found for either case .....Justice has to be without bias or influence...
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rasselasss wrote:Justice has to be without bias or influence...
Justice always comes with bias and influence. As dax might say, what are you three years old? :P
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rasselasss wrote:The law states that a person "Is innocent until proven guilty" but nowadays that seems to have disappeared.

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Justice has to be without bias or influence...


Saying that the innocent principle exists as the punishment for major crimes require proof. An innocent person could have no proof too defend themselves.

Note. This rule exists in an adversarial law. However a non-adversarial inquiry searches for the truth. If you think about it's the 'truth' stage is validated in the adversarial stage. We have seen the 'truth' stage is full of bias.

Were is the punishment for gathering bias 'truth' ?!

The next point; we either accept the 'truth' original raw evidence is seen by many and accept a ruling on it's validity. As well as categorization by the jury.

The transcripts of the jury should be recorded for any appeal process.

Otherwise we would have too release all those who have their case details made public.

One of cause could jail those who make details public that will be used within a court case. However I would like to see how that can be enforces.

The last point is when a jury puts forward a ruling on evidence of validity and categorization and that shows a flaw in current law. Then can the Judge or appeal call it a mistrial?

For example the direct taxation of labor in the USA.

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rasselasss wrote:
I have to ask who has'nt seen the video of Chauvin or read about Maxwell and formed an influenced opinion.......Where can 12 unbiased jurors be found for either case .....Justice has to be without bias or influence...
That isn’t a juror’s biggest worry. Being doxed to a violent mob is. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t be worried about your family when threats start pouring in? So in this age of social media somethings need to change. There needs to be some high profile media covered long term incarcerations for doxing so the public and media pay attention.

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Hi daxwc

Where members of a Jury have their details released to the public (aka The mob) should trigger a mistrial.

After a trial anything done can not be changed so going after the Jury will not change the ruling.

However a people pressuring the jury during or after a case need to be chased up all efforts.

Education to show the how the Jury system is managed (Checks & Balances) should be part of the educational system.

The mob (The people) need be shown the process works for them as equally as it works for others.

If it does not then get it fix quick.
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