Thx Machine II

[Georg Künstler]

Hi thx4,
very good build thanks for trying that version,
while you are waiting,

as I had written before, the length of the rope is essential.
The length of the rope is influencing the frequence of the swinging of the pendulums.

In the moment the rope in your video is too long, half the length should be in the corner of the natural frequency.

Look at the characteristic of the swinging of the pendulums, they will change dramatically.

Maybe you can make a second video and look at the swinging in slow motion.
Compare both videos before and after the change of the rope length, and look at the change of the movment.

A small change with an huge effect.

[thx4]

@agor95, for those who know how to read between the lines the principle of the lift was described several times. :)

@georg, I'm putting the pendulums aside for now, I'll probably come back to them.

A working wheel is only a few minutes away! lol

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[Georg Künstler]

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[daxwc]

WaltzCee:

Improve a current solution? Precisely what the hell is that, a current solution?

Presently most members of the animal kingdom discharge a substance known to the US
government to be bad, nasty and in need of eradication from the atmosphere.


Quote:

Biden's climate envoy John Kerry says we need to 'remove carbon dioxide from the
air' and criticizes Trump for leaving the Paris climate deal without 'facts or science'

I wonder 2 things.
How could life ever have evolve when the animal half subsists off the
waste of the plant half & likewise photosynthesis requiring animal waste?

Who put these people in charge?

What I don’t understand is this carbon tax that just stifles and chokes GDP. I could see if the taxes went to big CO2 scubbing plants that every city had to maintain and offset their carbon, but no the taxes are meant to make everything so expensive you stop consuming.

The worst is the lying to the public with this limited studies and rebates where they tell the people that the poor and middle class will have to pay nothing. If you push all the cost to business and the rich they will recoup their loss through inflation. For example if you make the cost of grocery transportation 4 times the cost it is now the stores will add that in to the cost of your carrots. There is no free ride for the middle class.

[thx4]

@georg, daxwc
Instead of pissing on my posts go and spit on yours.
Thank you ...
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[daxwc]

LOL, you are welcome; the piss is costs nothing. Georg did you ever wonder how WaltzCee got a free pass 8D

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[WaltzCee]

@ thx4

Let me take one final piss here, by way of explaination, then I'll be done. When agor
suggested not shooting for something right, yet evolving a current solution, I thought, well
that's an idea. Where is this current solution? Is agor really that stupid? I've come to the
conclusion he's not really a member of the animal kingdom, most likely a member of the
plant kingdom just posing. Who knows, he may evolve.

I agree with your points, daxwc. Corporate tax is an expense the consumer pays. I recently
read some Buffet and he thinks inflation is an insidious tax instigated by governments with
no real corporate solution. I've resigned myself to the fact America is royally screwed.
Politicians are lining their pockets as they're lying to us. Bastards. It's always been that
way but not as expansive in America as it's getting. And if you debate the matter online
you get cancelled. Bastards squared.

Georg, in America we have a notion called political machines. Former Chicago Mayor
Richard J. Daley is a noted example. Maybe governor Cuomo is a good current example
of a political boss. Most want to get on with their lives yet some want to manage others.
One last thought, how did a documented segregationist get more votes than the first black
president? Makes no sense.

[WaltzCee]

Right @ Thx4,

I see your idea as an inverted ramp design. A very smart guy once said it really doesn't
matter how you shift the weights around in your wheel (ie levers, strings, cams, etc) unless
one adds some energy to that motion it will not perpetuate.

I do like the propeller in your wheel. I think the wheel sometimes drives it and sometimes
it drives the wheel. However it can not create energy. For that you need a prime mover.

Maybe axel is for hire.

[WaltzCee]

LOL, you are welcome; the piss is costs nothing. Georg did you ever wonder how WaltzCee got a free pass 8D

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I waltzed.

There's still time. I might get scolded.

[WaltzCee]

Thx4, I was looking for a Bessler quote about his wheel not having weights hanging off the
axle but I couldn't find it. Everything I've learned about him has been incidental. I did find
this:

NB. May 1, 1733. Due to the arrest, I burned and buried all papers that prove the possibility. However, I have left all demonstrations and experiments, since it would be difficult for anybody to see or learn anything about a perpetual motion from them or to decide whether there was any truth in them because no illustration by itself contains a description of the motion; however, taking various illustrations together and combining them with a discerning mind, it will indeed be possible to look for a movement and, finally to find one in them."

I don't suppose we're in search of a mechanism as much as a motion. I also think if one's
mind is full of clues there's less room for creative thought.

[thx4]

The only thing I believe about Bessler is that he really produced a functional wheel. As for the rest of the codes, I said it but I didn't say it, I don't believe it...
The only question I have concerning B, why try to hide the functioning of his wheel when no wheel is still visible during his lifetime, for posterity? (I don't know if he had children). I don't believe it, so why go into crazy codes, why do it? a simple plan would have been enough.
I am very suspicious about B. Still, I have a model that should tell us in the next few hours whether or not it works.

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[Robinhood46]

I believe he had a runner but je ne mettrais pas ma main au feu.
I have too much difficulty in believing that the committee were too stupid to not find the trick, if there was one.
I have often wondered if he didn't want to punish society for not taking him seriously and refusing to believe him, knowing damn well he had supplied proof. When we finally get a runner (if) we will be able to understand his point of view, of how the story developed and maybe his behaviour will be easier to understand.

[thx4]

https://youtu.be/84vUFprg6DM

We're moving forward but I'm stuck on the last straight line, I have to decide on one of the possibilities. I'm not trying to lift the weight I'm just trying to keep it off the main axis.

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[Gegyx]

Hello

The new system should support the rotating weight; therefore it cannot remain fixed.
To be sure it helps at the right time, this system should run 2-3 times faster.
The gears are already made on the weights; let's use notching ...
I think a flap wheel would mesh well, even if it meant tapping it a bit, to help with the tipping.

https://www.klingspor.fr/++plone++werkb ... m611_h.jpg

[thx4]

Hi Gegyx,
Excellent, the blade or propeller system should make things easier...
The gear version around the mass supports is very aesthetic (lol, a little 4x4 SUV side) but not very practical, I plan to review the mass support in a cylindrical version which should be more adapted, or even include on each of the small wheels, to facilitate the sliding. Still a lot of work to do on this MT13.
Gearboxes + frames + weight holder. etc ... Paintwork...

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