Thx Machine II

[thx4]

To see and see again without moderation!!!
https://youtu.be/5JCm5FY-dEY

That's why I'm still looking, but the "must" would be a collective work, with more exchange but good....
I miss some members, "ME", and "path_finder", I think that you too, we still have Fletcher fortunately :)
I am convinced, that is, without doubt, that PM exists, but the belief that energy runs out by friction makes it impossible, and this is the first mistake. Of course energy is depleted by friction, if you stay on this conclusion stay in bed... lol

Good day and good thinking.

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[Robinhood46]

Friction for PM seekers is the equivalent of gravity for the stupid crazy people who refused to accept the current understanding of physics, and wasted their time and effort trying to make flying machines.
Friction is the most pathetic argument, that the nay sayer's use, to validate their belief that PM's impossibility is a fact.

That's why I'm still looking, but the "must" would be a collective work, with more exchange but good....

I think friction is playing a role here though.

[Georg Künstler]

Robinhood46 wrote:

I think friction is playing a role here though.

There is no friction problem inside of the wheel.
Look at the video from thx4 where one domino is pushing the other.
A chain reaction with increasing amplitude.


We have a tilting oscillation.
The domino falls because it is hit above the center of gravity.
In addition, the footprint of the domino must be kept small.
In Besslers wheel, the surface on which the dominos are standing is moving.
The Hamstercage has the function of a moving ground.


I have only found a german version of a text

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standfestigkeit

M=G*l so if you have a small basis l the body will tilt easy

[thx4]

Hello to all,
@Georg I did some tests still nothing, I feel I'm doing it wrong, I'll come back later on this type of oscillation.

https://ahp.li/21495f64950f6a11b1b6.jpg

In the meantime I finally understood how to link the balance to the wheel, I just had to observe MT51, there are days like that when I don't understand anything. :)

Then the pendulum lifts the weights in a logical way but not efficient, next video if it's obvious we'll see more.

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[Tarsier79]

I think Georg is leading you up the garden path. What sustains the pendulum?

MT13 has no energy to give.... The pendulums oscillations will decay.

[thx4]

https://youtu.be/EnJ59FlajZg

Small beginning of the big works it is necessary to add then the MT51, the elevator took me time however it is simple...

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[thx4]

Hello to all,
B, tells us that springs will be used but not as one would expect!!!

https://youtu.be/zuLJZylmJB4

And if Georg was right, for several days I have been testing and observing different resonance configurations. We need an exciter and a resonator, we must assume that when the resonator is at its maximum it sends back enough to maintain the exciter. It sounds simple :)
I put the MT13 on vacation, to devote myself to the resonator for a while, and we'll see. In the meantime I received my balls, I plan to make a proto with 12 balls a little different and to drop one of the balls at 11 am the balls will be distributed in weight as the MT13 more to the right than to the left.
Balls( weight 110grs, diameter 30mm)
https://ahp.li/fe9fb8c998e5b9d9586d.jpg

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[Georg Künstler]

thx4 wrote:

We need an exciter and a resonator,

correct, but with a different view.

The exciter will get a feedback from a second moveing weight in an offset of 180 degrees, so we have a positive feedback loop.

Remember Bessler, one is arranging the other.

I compare the function range with the function range of our heart.
Depending on the building size the system will respond with an working frequence.
Compared to our heart 60 beats a minute. That is the normal working frequence of our heart and it will be controlled, frequence contolled.

The heart will not beat with 1200 beates a minute without destroying the heart.

So one additional function is to control the positive feedback loop.
Bessler managed this in a very clever way.
But we don't need Bessler's function to prove that we can extract energy from gravity.

You can also talk to a Crane operator how dangerous it is with swinging masses and how they can control that.

[thx4]

It's still a bit complicated but the MT13 resonates well, still a lot of small adjustments, but tomorrow you will see something never seen before.

No I didn't kill the bear yet. :)
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[WaltzCee]

and we'll see. In the meantime I received my balls

let me be the first to congratulate you.

This is the CoM of a resonating parametric Oscar Later.

I think it precisely depicts the difference between theory and practice.
A watch maker would have a difficult time replicating this.



One can change the form of the pattern significantly by varying the parameters.
I've about given up on an LSAM design (or any design) missing an energy input.
I held out hope for as long as I could, yet it's time to abandon all hope of that dream
and move on to designs using a prime mover.

Best of luck with your design.

[thx4]

Hello to all,
@WaltzCee, thanks, but you can do better too...

https://youtu.be/rMRaLYOEmAI

There is still a lot to do ... :D
Transforming the MT13 into an inertia disc, lifting the weights slows down the whole thing a bit.
The big advances, the resonance of the two balances, which works well but it is not obvious on the video, and then the lever with pulley that sends the wheel to make 3/4 of turn, the it is an accident, I saw it after. :)
the MT13 will end up as MT51 with some small differences that B hid from us.

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[thx4]

Well I see that nobody understood anything, nothing abnormal, I'm on it daily at least one hour a day, and until I find a solution I'm running in a loop I work like this ...
Yet I can say that we have never been so close to a self-sustaining system.
Simple, we have a pulley lever that I did not know, but that lifts by itself 3/4 of the wheel, (magic)
Then in the next moment we have 2 balances that enters in resonance (useless to explain) that we lack what ???
Simply a disc or other with a light unbalance that in phase with the lever will leave little work to the balances, that's all ...
See you tomorrow for a little video or not.

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[WaltzCee]

Well I see that nobody understood anything, nothing abnormal, I'm on it daily at least one hour a day, and until I find a solution I'm running in a loop ...

Don't take a lack of response to mean much, thx4.

You could be on to something interesting. Your French has such a heavy accent it's
hard to understand at times. What is your first language?

[thx4]

End of the MT13, but we can say that it taught me everything ...
Here is a video, before work, certainly more explanatory than the previous one.
Special thanks to Georg, who intrigued me to the point of reviewing my copy from the beginning. I haven't finished yet, but now I know. lol

https://youtu.be/-bZFZnOo_vc
The next video will definitely be the right one.
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[Georg Künstler]

Hi Thx4,
you really made a big step forward in your development and understanding.

Some fine tuning will be necessary, but you have reached the goal.
You have the model in front of you and you see how it will resonate.

You also see that we don't hurt any physic rules.

You have now implemented the heart of the movement to your MT13.