Asking my two simple questions for the 12th time.
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QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
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Looking forward to your two answers for the 12th time.
IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Robinhood46
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re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
PeterAX,
You've been promoted, congratulations.
It wasn't that long ago you became disregarded by many, and you are already progressing toward being banned.
Keep up the good work.
You've been promoted, congratulations.
It wasn't that long ago you became disregarded by many, and you are already progressing toward being banned.
Keep up the good work.
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
To Robinhood46.
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By threatenning me with banning (a) you will not stop the technology progress and/or (b) you will not be able to hide your incompetence. You are from the same mafia, to which belong(s) WaltzCee/MrTim/Tarsier79. Or may be you are one and same person and Robinhood46 is your 4th pseudonim?
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By threatenning me with banning (a) you will not stop the technology progress and/or (b) you will not be able to hide your incompetence. You are from the same mafia, to which belong(s) WaltzCee/MrTim/Tarsier79. Or may be you are one and same person and Robinhood46 is your 4th pseudonim?
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Asking my two simple questions for the 13th time.
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Having in mind (a) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY and having in mind (b) some numerical values for the zigzags system basic physical quantities answer the two simple questions below.
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1) The link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY
2) Ma = 1 kg
3) Mb = 4 kg. (The value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want.)
4) V1 = 1m/s = const
5) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N. (The latter can be further decreased as many times as you want.)
6) N = number of zigzags = 10. (The value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want.)
7) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids. (The latter can replaced by any other curve patterns.)
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QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
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Looking forward to your two answers for the 13th time.
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Having in mind (a) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY and having in mind (b) some numerical values for the zigzags system basic physical quantities answer the two simple questions below.
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1) The link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY
2) Ma = 1 kg
3) Mb = 4 kg. (The value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want.)
4) V1 = 1m/s = const
5) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N. (The latter can be further decreased as many times as you want.)
6) N = number of zigzags = 10. (The value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want.)
7) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids. (The latter can replaced by any other curve patterns.)
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QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
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Looking forward to your two answers for the 13th time.
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Sam Peppiatt
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re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
PeterAX,
Yes, you have a very good idea.
This is the way it's starting to shape up; to give you the sense of it. I have four pendulums. The idea is try to get the wheel to do one thing and only one thing. at a time. That is, to swing a pendulum in at 3:00, (for CCW rotation), while the other 3 pendulums do absolutely nothing; remaining balanced and translating, until they return to the 3 O'clock position. That's what I'm fighting with right now.
For two wheels as you suggested, one would have it's pendulum swing in at 3:00 and the other at 9:00. I not sure about three----------------------------Sam
Yes, you have a very good idea.
This is the way it's starting to shape up; to give you the sense of it. I have four pendulums. The idea is try to get the wheel to do one thing and only one thing. at a time. That is, to swing a pendulum in at 3:00, (for CCW rotation), while the other 3 pendulums do absolutely nothing; remaining balanced and translating, until they return to the 3 O'clock position. That's what I'm fighting with right now.
For two wheels as you suggested, one would have it's pendulum swing in at 3:00 and the other at 9:00. I not sure about three----------------------------Sam
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
To Sam Peppiat.
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Hi Sam,
Thank you for your reply.
1) About the 1-wheel modification. Yes, I agree. The concept seems to be workable. Let us see what will happen.
2) About the 2-wheels modification. Well, I did not understand very well the idea. Would you be so polite to explain it in detail?
3) About the 3-wheels (or even n-wheels) modification. You think that it may not work? Well, there is a logic in your words. Besides such a system would become quite sophisticated and difficult for calculation and building.
Please keep me constantly informed what happens. Always ready to help.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
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Hi Sam,
Thank you for your reply.
1) About the 1-wheel modification. Yes, I agree. The concept seems to be workable. Let us see what will happen.
2) About the 2-wheels modification. Well, I did not understand very well the idea. Would you be so polite to explain it in detail?
3) About the 3-wheels (or even n-wheels) modification. You think that it may not work? Well, there is a logic in your words. Besides such a system would become quite sophisticated and difficult for calculation and building.
Please keep me constantly informed what happens. Always ready to help.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Asking my two simple questions for the 14th time
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1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY .
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2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can replaced by any other curve patterns.
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QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
---------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your two answers for the 14th time.
----------------------------------------------
1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can replaced by any other curve patterns.
--------------------------------------------
QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
---------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your two answers for the 14th time.
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Asking my two simple questions for the 15h time
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1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY .
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2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can replaced by any other curve patterns.
--------------------------------------------
QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
---------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your two answers for the 15th time.
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Note. The values of V2 and V3 depend on the value of N as well as on the zigzags shapes (curve patterns).
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1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can replaced by any other curve patterns.
--------------------------------------------
QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
---------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your two answers for the 15th time.
=========================
Note. The values of V2 and V3 depend on the value of N as well as on the zigzags shapes (curve patterns).
Last edited by PeterAX on Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:03 am, edited 2 times in total.
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
To Sam Peppiat.
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Starting some design work by following your basic ideas. Seems to be an interesting problem for solving.
Regards,
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Starting some design work by following your basic ideas. Seems to be an interesting problem for solving.
Regards,
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Sam Peppiatt
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re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Hi Peter AX!!
My poor pea brain! I have to back up. My wheel right now, lifts a pendulum in at 3:00 for CCW rotation. The more I think about it; to lift a pend. in at 9:00 the wheel would have to turn CW. So, if I'm right about that, 2 phase or 3 phase won't work. As it stands right now at least.
More wheels could still be put on the same shaft but the phase would occur at the same time for all of them.
I finally made some progress yesterday. A spring stretches from the center of the wheel to a pin on the pendulum. This pin has to slide back and forth. At 3:00 it slides down, to swing the pend into the center. All other times it has to slide back up to where it is centered over the pivot pin of the pend.
What I learned yester day is that this slider should be on a 45 degree angle to it's pend. Also the offset is no longer needed.
Yes, it's fasinating-----------------------------------Sam
My poor pea brain! I have to back up. My wheel right now, lifts a pendulum in at 3:00 for CCW rotation. The more I think about it; to lift a pend. in at 9:00 the wheel would have to turn CW. So, if I'm right about that, 2 phase or 3 phase won't work. As it stands right now at least.
More wheels could still be put on the same shaft but the phase would occur at the same time for all of them.
I finally made some progress yesterday. A spring stretches from the center of the wheel to a pin on the pendulum. This pin has to slide back and forth. At 3:00 it slides down, to swing the pend into the center. All other times it has to slide back up to where it is centered over the pivot pin of the pend.
What I learned yester day is that this slider should be on a 45 degree angle to it's pend. Also the offset is no longer needed.
Yes, it's fasinating-----------------------------------Sam
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Hi Sam,
Hi dear colleague,
It's a great pleasure for me to correspond with you! You are just the same new technologies enthusiast like me!
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Congratulations! You have made a really great progress! It seems to me that only some small additional efforts will inevitably lead to the realization of your gravity wheel's non-stop rotation in the nearest future! Perfect!
Please keep me constantly informed what happens. Always ready to help.
Regards,
Peter
Hi dear colleague,
It's a great pleasure for me to correspond with you! You are just the same new technologies enthusiast like me!
------------------------------------------------------------
Congratulations! You have made a really great progress! It seems to me that only some small additional efforts will inevitably lead to the realization of your gravity wheel's non-stop rotation in the nearest future! Perfect!
Please keep me constantly informed what happens. Always ready to help.
Regards,
Peter
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Don't be afraid of truth!
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Asking my two simple questions for the 16th time.
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1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can be replaced by any other curve patterns.
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3) It is evident that if V2 = 0.6 m/s and if V3 = 0.1 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum will be correct and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy will be incorrect.
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4) It is evident that if V2 = 0.8 m/s and if V3 = 0.3 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum will be incorrect and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy will be correct.
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5) Or may be both (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy are actually incorrect simultaneously in this special particular zigzag case?
--------------------------------------------
So let us ask again our two simple questions for the 16th time.
--------------------------------------------
QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
--------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your two answers for the 16th time.
--------------------------------------------
Don't be afraid of truth!
--------------------------------------------
Asking my two simple questions for the 16th time.
--------------------------------------------
1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can be replaced by any other curve patterns.
--------------------------------------------
3) It is evident that if V2 = 0.6 m/s and if V3 = 0.1 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum will be correct and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy will be incorrect.
--------------------------------------------
4) It is evident that if V2 = 0.8 m/s and if V3 = 0.3 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum will be incorrect and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy will be correct.
--------------------------------------------
5) Or may be both (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy are actually incorrect simultaneously in this special particular zigzag case?
--------------------------------------------
So let us ask again our two simple questions for the 16th time.
--------------------------------------------
QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
--------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your two answers for the 16th time.
--------------------------------------------
Don't be afraid of truth!
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Sam Peppiatt
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re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Thanks Peter AX!
Now that I know how to do it, it's only a matter of time. Good luck with your ZigZag---------------------------------Sam
Now that I know how to do it, it's only a matter of time. Good luck with your ZigZag---------------------------------Sam
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Hi Sam,
Hi dear colleague,
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First of all thanks a lot for your wishing me a good luck! Much obliged! Thanks a lot again!
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When you have time would you be so polite to consider another small "crazy" idea?:) (But only as a small addition/variation of your basic gravity wheel concept.)
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And here is the new "crazy" idea. Two wheels fixed to a common axis. One wheel is at 12:00 and the other wheel is at 06:00. Each wheel equipped with 4 pendulums (as you suggest in one of your previous posts), that is, 8 pendulums as a whole. Each group of 4 pendulums works in the sequence, that you suggest in one of your previous posts. Would this system work? I don't know. The final word is yours as you are obviously an expert in the field of the gravity wheels. You are the leader and I am the helper.:) But it's really an interesting problem to be solved and it's a pleasure for me to be your assistant.:)
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Please keep me constantly informed what happens. Always ready to help.
Regards,
Peter
Hi dear colleague,
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First of all thanks a lot for your wishing me a good luck! Much obliged! Thanks a lot again!
--------------------------------------
When you have time would you be so polite to consider another small "crazy" idea?:) (But only as a small addition/variation of your basic gravity wheel concept.)
--------------------------------------
And here is the new "crazy" idea. Two wheels fixed to a common axis. One wheel is at 12:00 and the other wheel is at 06:00. Each wheel equipped with 4 pendulums (as you suggest in one of your previous posts), that is, 8 pendulums as a whole. Each group of 4 pendulums works in the sequence, that you suggest in one of your previous posts. Would this system work? I don't know. The final word is yours as you are obviously an expert in the field of the gravity wheels. You are the leader and I am the helper.:) But it's really an interesting problem to be solved and it's a pleasure for me to be your assistant.:)
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Please keep me constantly informed what happens. Always ready to help.
Regards,
Peter
Last edited by PeterAX on Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Let us work together and not to confront!
Let us push forward together the technology progress!
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Asking my two simple questions for the 17th time.
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1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can be replaced by any other curve patterns.
--------------------------------------------
3) It is evident that if V2 = 0.6 m/s and if V3 = 0.1 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum will be correct and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy will be incorrect.
--------------------------------------------
4) It is evident that if V2 = 0.8 m/s and if V3 = 0.3 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum will be incorrect and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy will be correct.
--------------------------------------------
5) Or may be both (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy are actually incorrect simultaneously in this special particular zigzag case?
--------------------------------------------
So let us ask again our two simple questions for the 17th time.
--------------------------------------------
QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
--------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your two answers for the 17th time.
--------------------------------------------
Let us work together and not to confront!
Let us push forward together the technology progress!
Let us push forward together the technology progress!
--------------------------------------------
Asking my two simple questions for the 17th time.
--------------------------------------------
1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can be replaced by any other curve patterns.
--------------------------------------------
3) It is evident that if V2 = 0.6 m/s and if V3 = 0.1 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum will be correct and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy will be incorrect.
--------------------------------------------
4) It is evident that if V2 = 0.8 m/s and if V3 = 0.3 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum will be incorrect and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy will be correct.
--------------------------------------------
5) Or may be both (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy are actually incorrect simultaneously in this special particular zigzag case?
--------------------------------------------
So let us ask again our two simple questions for the 17th time.
--------------------------------------------
QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
--------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your two answers for the 17th time.
--------------------------------------------
Let us work together and not to confront!
Let us push forward together the technology progress!