Stabhochsprung

[gravitationallychallenged]

Thank you for sharing that phj. I wonder what document the author of the clue page referenced it from?

[Georg Künstler]

Hi Raj,
you see that the parallelogram does not collapse,
It has always potential energy left.
The collapse is prevented because we have only the space which is given into the Hamster cage.
Regardless how the Hamster cage is turned, we still have potential energy within the parallelogram,
The parallelogram is a storkbill, with only one bill.
The storkbill will fall either to the left or to the right.
This is resulting in an asymmetric torque.
Furthermore this construction will produce an impact/hit on the downgoing side.
The weights are acting in pairs, during the movement one weight is going to the center, the other to the rim.
What has to be noticed is, where the impact/hit takes place.
It is taken place in the upper area of the Hamster Cage.
The parallelogram is making a sideways move and is then hitting the rim.
The parallelogram is representing a movable structure which will oscillate during the movement.
It oscillates in a frame, the Hamster Cage.

The sidewards move is like the approach of the pole vaulter.
As bigger the wheel construction as faster will be the starting speed, which will create then the impact/hit on the rim.
I hope that you can follow my thoughts.

[raj]

I applaud you for sticking to your vision of how your wheel will behave.

Raj

[gravitationallychallenged]

Hi Georg-

I can see how your parallelogram mechanism coincides with how a pole vault functions. The inertia stored in the weights of your mechanism causes the parallelogram to lift and fall over after each impact, very similar to a pole vaulter. Do you estimate your mechanism will be capable of propelling a wheel to as many revolutions per minute as Bessler''s wheel?

[Georg Künstler]

Hi gravitationallychallenged,
I show you here a modification of the Stabhochsprung.
there is a rolling cylinder and on this is hanging a mass, like a pendulum.
The mass will be accelerated sideways and down.
If the rolling cylinder is suddenly stopped, the hanging mass will be accelerated upwards in a flash.

such a example you can see under
https://youtu.be/PYzF3vlUXbM
it is called rohrschlitten, look at second 9.

The force on the lever, ramp is therefore increased. This is the additional force which is needed to accelerate the wheel.
The impact causes an upswing. The energy is not wasted anymore, gravity has to do the work twice.

you asked

Do you estimate your mechanism will be capable of propelling a wheel to as many revolutions per minute as Bessler''s wheel?

I am pretty sure that my mechanism is pretty close to Besslers original bi-directional wheel.
Everything is in motion at the same time.

[gravitationallychallenged]

Georg- At first I discarded your parallelogram mechanism as being too simple, with not enough potential power to drive the wheel. Now that I've taken more time to study it, I have come to realize its potential and how it matches many of the clues and statements made by Bessler.

Your mechanism uses excess inertia to carry the mechanism over an apex, similar to a stabhochsprung. Most wheel configurations have failed because they lacked sufficient force to overcome friction and opposing forces. They were not enable to cause the movement to keep repeating. Could the words excess weight have been better translated from old German into English as excess inertia?

[Georg Künstler]

Hi gravitationallychallenged,
excess inertia will be the better translation.

With the redirection of a an inert mass gravity has to accelerate the mass again.
The forces on the carrier is enorm.
This redirection is being done simultaneously on the left and the right side of the wheel.
One weight is going to the axle, the other to the rim.
Because the carrier has already moved, the net force on the down going side is higher.

The version does not use any springs because they are not necessary.
Springs will only complicate the type of movement.

Normally in physic they use a mass--spring system to create an oscillating system.
But in my example I use a mass..mass system to create the oscillation.
The weights are acting in pairs, two masses. Always two and two.