Consider the three cases of collision as shown:
1) the ball on the right moving to hit the ball on the left (at rest). Nothing special
2) the ball on the right drop down from gravity to hit the left ball (at rest) via a 1:1 lever. Again, standard stuff
3) this time the lever is 90 degree and the left ball is resting on a surface
During collision in case 2 both ball subject to gravity force and cancelled out but in case 3 only one ball subject to gravity during collision. This net force during collision is excess impetus.
I found Bessler’s principle of excess impetus
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I found Bessler’s principle of excess impetus
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Re: I found Bessler’s principle of excess impetus
Bonjour Leafy,
C'est le principe que j'utilise actuellement dans mon étude MT22.
Le pendule entre en action pour entrainer le satellitaire. Les deux éléments arrivés en butée, le câble a du mou ce qui rend le pendule indépendant du satellitaire.
pour la remontée le pendule repart dans sa position initiale sans entrainer le satellitaire et j'utilise son énergie potentielle pour décoller le pendule en butée qui le suit.
Le satellitaire reprend sa position de départ naturellement par gravité.
Reste a voir si sur une roue, l'ensemble ne rentre pas en équilibre, sur le dessin cela fonctionne, les essais matériels sont concluants pour un système.
A suivre!
Hello Leafy,
This is the principle that I currently use in my MT22 study.
The pendulum goes into action to train the satellite. The two elements arrived in stop, the cable has slack which makes the pendulum independent of the satellite.
for the ascent the pendulum goes back to its initial position without training the satellite and I use its potential energy to take off the pendulum at the stop that follows it.
The satellite returns to its starting position naturally by gravity.
It remained to see if on a wheel, the whole does not balance, on the drawing it works, the material tests are conclusive for a system.
To follow!
J.b
C'est le principe que j'utilise actuellement dans mon étude MT22.
Le pendule entre en action pour entrainer le satellitaire. Les deux éléments arrivés en butée, le câble a du mou ce qui rend le pendule indépendant du satellitaire.
pour la remontée le pendule repart dans sa position initiale sans entrainer le satellitaire et j'utilise son énergie potentielle pour décoller le pendule en butée qui le suit.
Le satellitaire reprend sa position de départ naturellement par gravité.
Reste a voir si sur une roue, l'ensemble ne rentre pas en équilibre, sur le dessin cela fonctionne, les essais matériels sont concluants pour un système.
A suivre!
Hello Leafy,
This is the principle that I currently use in my MT22 study.
The pendulum goes into action to train the satellite. The two elements arrived in stop, the cable has slack which makes the pendulum independent of the satellite.
for the ascent the pendulum goes back to its initial position without training the satellite and I use its potential energy to take off the pendulum at the stop that follows it.
The satellite returns to its starting position naturally by gravity.
It remained to see if on a wheel, the whole does not balance, on the drawing it works, the material tests are conclusive for a system.
To follow!
J.b
La propriété, c'est le vol!
P.J. PROUDHON
P.J. PROUDHON
Re: I found Bessler’s principle of excess impetus
Bonjour Shadow! Best of luck to you.
Returning to the collision analysis.
Let consider case A where the right ball move to collide with the left ball at rest. What happens during collision? It will reach a stage as shown in case B. At this stage the velocity is low and the same for both balls. If a net force is apply at this stage, both ball will attain additional speed. The left ball will then depart with this extra speed in addition to its momentum transfer from the right ball.
Returning to the collision analysis.
Let consider case A where the right ball move to collide with the left ball at rest. What happens during collision? It will reach a stage as shown in case B. At this stage the velocity is low and the same for both balls. If a net force is apply at this stage, both ball will attain additional speed. The left ball will then depart with this extra speed in addition to its momentum transfer from the right ball.
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Re: I found Bessler’s principle of excess impetus
Conclusion
The principle of any perpetual motion machine include collision and net force during collision
There are three methods to increase this effect:
1) stronger collision - increase speed of collision
2) stronger net force - increase acceleration during collision
3) increase frequency of collision - make collisions more often
The principle of any perpetual motion machine include collision and net force during collision
There are three methods to increase this effect:
1) stronger collision - increase speed of collision
2) stronger net force - increase acceleration during collision
3) increase frequency of collision - make collisions more often
I would trade everything to see her again, even a perpetual motion machine…