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[WaltzCee]

Thanks for your reply Fletcher. I appreciate your translation for clarification. It still seems to me to convey the idea of sending heavy weights up at a faster rate than they can fall. Are the weights independent as if someone is juggling or are they attached with strings or cables? I also recall there are springs involved somehow that are fastened to the weights.

What drives me mad the most is when people leave clues behind that can be interpreted so many ways as if to not have any clues at all - the end result is the same that you take shots in the dark and see if it pans out.

I've been reading with interest RAF's posts with using wheels and levers and it almost looks like planets and orbits. At some point if you get enough people working on a problem, you would think at least one solution would happen or if it has, people suddenly become very secretive as if they hit the lottery. If I had the solution, I'd share it immediately. I don't want fame, I don't want money, I just want a way to power my house off the grid so I don't have to pay for electricity. Then I could switch to electric vehicles for my short daily commute and save myself plus others a whole ton of money! Once the genie is out of the bottle, he can't be put back in.

silent

I think you're going to get fame whether you want it or not. Your life's going to be turned upside down.

Liar, liar, pants on fire!!

[WaltzCee]

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Have any deleted their first post besides this fine individual.

by fine individual, I mean scum.

I just scanned this link and was amazed at how much of the record this rat obscounded.

https://besslerwheel.com/forum/search.p ... &start=285

Move to the earlier pages.

[Fletcher]

I already checked it out - 34 pages - all prior to 29 Sept 2019.

Wouldn't lose any sleep over it Walt.

[silent]

Yeah don't. None of it was right anyway.

[silent]

The United States Patent and Trademark Office (“USPTO”) has the privilege of reviewing hundreds of thousands of inventions each year before the public learns about them. Consequently, the USPTO is uniquely positioned as a funnel through which the Government can collect information about new technologies and determine which ones have implications for the safety and welfare of the nation. Under the Invention Secrecy Act, the Commissioner for Patents may order that an invention for which patent protection is sought be kept secret if disclosure of the invention might be detrimental to national security.

In order for the USPTO to review patent applications and then to do its part in protecting national security, while respecting the rights of inventors, the Invention Secrecy Act provides for the implementation of a framework with three primary components: (1) the screening phase, which applies to all patent applications; (2) the maintenance of secrecy phase, which applies to those inventions for which the Government has made a determination of risk to national security; and (3) the compensation phase, which is the phase during which a patent applicant or patentee can request compensation for either or both the loss due to being required to keep the invention secret and the government’s use of the invention prior to issuance of the patent. Failure of inventors to abide by the terms of and to follow the procedures promulgated under the Invention Secrecy Act can have dire consequences, and thus, applicants and persons who counsel them should be aware of its contours, how the USPTO implements it, and how courts interpret it.

It's that "dire consequences" part that bothers me the most. If you're discovered as the one responsible for releasing something like this to the public, the government will take care of it and not in a way that you like.

Someone has already figured this out and has been paid to keep quiet.

silent

[WaltzCee]

Yeah don't. None of it was right anyway.

It was obvious you were clueless from the very beginning. Not the point. Once anyone posts content it becomes the property of the forum owner. It is not your property, you thief.

Also responses to your ignorant drivel become meaningless.

You have violated the trust of this forum and its members.

You bastard.

[eccentrically1]

He's got nothing I would lose sleep over. the Secrecy clause is a good excuse maybe. But, I don't agree such a thing would fall under the national security consequences.

[WaltzCee]

He's got nothing I would lose sleep over. the Secrecy clause is a good excuse maybe. But, I don't agree such a thing would fall under the national security consequences.

I am sure of it Ecc. In a way he added value to everything he has ever said. By deleting such a swath of Scott's content silent BD (S But Deadly) demonstrated his character.

That was priceless.

Just up thread he demonstrated what a rat ass bastard he is with this:

The United States Patent and Trademark Office (“USPTO”) has the privilege of reviewing hundreds of thousands of inventions each year before the public learns about them. Consequently, the USPTO is uniquely positioned as a funnel through which the Government can collect information about new technologies and determine which ones have implications for the safety and welfare of the nation. Under the Invention Secrecy Act, the Commissioner for Patents may order that an invention for which patent protection is sought be kept secret if disclosure of the invention might be detrimental to national security.

In order for the USPTO to review patent applications and then to do its part in protecting national security, while respecting the rights of inventors, the Invention Secrecy Act provides for the implementation of a framework with three primary components: (1) the screening phase, which applies to all patent applications; (2) the maintenance of secrecy phase, which applies to those inventions for which the Government has made a determination of risk to national security; and (3) the compensation phase, which is the phase during which a patent applicant or patentee can request compensation for either or both the loss due to being required to keep the invention secret and the government’s use of the invention prior to issuance of the patent. Failure of inventors to abide by the terms of and to follow the procedures promulgated under the Invention Secrecy Act can have dire consequences, and thus, applicants and persons who counsel them should be aware of its contours, how the USPTO implements it, and how courts interpret it.

It's that "dire consequences" part that bothers me the most. If you're discovered as the one responsible for releasing something like this to the public, the government will take care of it and not in a way that you like.

Someone has already figured this out and has been paid to keep quiet.

silent

He sounds like an expert! Yet he ripped off these gentleman's work without giving them an ounce of credit.

Scott Locke, Dorf & Nelson LLP
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Abstract

The United States Patent and Trademark Office (“USPTO”) has the privilege of reviewing hundreds of thousands of inventions each year before the public learns about them. Consequently, the USPTO is uniquely positioned as a funnel through which the Government can collect information about new technologies and determine which ones have implications for the safety and welfare of the nation. Under the Invention Secrecy Act, the Commissioner for Patents may order that an invention for which patent protection is sought be kept secret if disclosure of the invention might be detrimental to national security.

quoted from
https://www.repository.law.indiana.edu/ipt/vol8/iss1/4/

What a POS.

Someone has already figured this out and has been paid to keep quiet.

Really? Who?

[agor95]

dire consequences

Only totalitarian fascist states would have a law with a weak undefined punishment clause.

P.S. But lets us keep that opinion to ourselves or else.

Regards

[eccentrically1]

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STA ... pdf#page=1

The punishment for violation in 1952 was 10K fine or 2 years or both. I don't know what it would be now, but don't worry about it until you have a working wheel.

[agor95]

The punishment for violation in 1952 was 10K fine or 2 years or both.

That sound like the punishment for gold mining on B.L.M. land [Bureau of Land Management].

Odd the amount of wilderness, land of the free, is being take up by organizations. I hope they have permits.

Does the 'dire consequences' include being pushed off the back of a train smelling of alcohol. When being an abstainer of the heathen drink.

I notice being a federal ex-convicts results in having your human right being
taken from you for life.

Regards

[eccentrically1]

The punishment for violation in 1952 was 10K fine or 2 years or both.

That sound like the punishment for gold mining on B.L.M. land [Bureau of Land Management].

Odd the amount of wilderness, land of the free, is being take up by organizations. I hope they have permits.

Does the 'dire consequences' include being pushed off the back of a train smelling of alcohol. When being an abstainer of the heathen drink.

I notice being a federal ex-convicts results in having your human right being
taken from you for life.

Regards

Maybe, but we’re not gold mining.
You’d have to research the amount of land owned federal vs. private. Permits are required and even then the government can claim eminent domain if necessary.
Again, perpetual motion patents don’t get one pushed off a train. They aren’t going to raise any eyebrows without a prototype. I’m not sure you understand that.

[Robinhood46]

It's a bloody good job they don't push people off trains for thinking they have found PM.
Besslerwheel.com would only have about four members, if they did.

[eccentrically1]

It's a bloody good job they don't push people off trains for thinking they have found PM.
Besslerwheel.com would only have about four members, if they did.

If you go full paranoia, it wouldn't have any members.

[agor95]

... perpetual motion patents don’t get one pushed off a train.
They aren’t going to raise any eyebrows without a prototype. I’m not sure you understand that.

It is good when proper patent rules are followed like having a working prototype and the patent is a full and accurate disclosure.

I believe the person had 25 patents to his name and at least two working prototype around 1992.

However the subject is off topic as it was not a Bessler like concept.

https://www.greenfuelh2o.com/learning-center/

Regards