Raw Energy does not make the wheel turn

[SHADOW]

bonjour Mr Tim,
Si l'impact se fait dans le sens de rotation de la roue, cela donne une impulsion à la rotation.
Pour minimiser l'effet de rebond on peut utiliser des masses contenant des billes comme pour les marteaux anti rebond.
C'est peut être ce que nous indique le hochet de la page jouets! MT.
mai cela reste une hypothèse!!
J.B

hello Mr Tim,
If the impact is made in the direction of rotation of the wheel, this gives an impulse to the rotation.
To minimise the bounce effect, masses containing balls can be used as for anti-bounce hammers.
This may be what the rattle on the toy page tells us! MT.
But this remains a hypothesis!!

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi Leafy,
I thought I might pester every one with my bull shit anyway, here goes; create is not the best word to use, it gets into this sh*t of trying to make a turnip out of a fart. A lot better word to use, I think, is "produce". There has to be energy in falling water, there for, there must be energy in a falling weight, right?
If you lift a weight up, it has potential energy. If you release it, in some way, it will fall, and then it will have kinetic energy. Am I right so far?

Now, you lift the godam weight up, (and I apologize for my French); haven't you produced freqing energy, and the wheel can do the same thing--------Sam

[Leafy]

Hi Sam,

When you lift the weight up, you produce energy, but it'll cost you. When the weight drop, it has kinetic energy, but you just taking back what it cost you. This is the problem that I'm sure Bessler came to realized after a while of trying different things. We're lucky to realized this with modern science without the effort of trial and error like Bessler.

I've also begining to see a solution. I think I visioned Bessler's cross bar and what he meant by why he failed on his previous attempts. I think there's a right way and a wrong way to lift weight. Here I will show two categories of weight raising by Bessler's.

Category 1: MT 9,10,11...
Category 2: MT 12,13,15...

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi Leafy, (you have a name I can spell),

The weight / weights, can be lifted up at No Cost, that's right at zero cost. I know it's hard to believe but, It can be done with a pendulum, and it's probably the only way that in can be done.

The weight of a pend. can change from a dead weight at 6:00, to perfectly balance in about 10 / 1,000 of a second then return, (lift), back up to 12:00. I know you don't believe it, but then neither does any one else--------------------------------Sam

[WaltzCee]

Now multiply that disruption by the number of mechanisms you have in your wheel. It's not going to turn...

+1

I see a consensus forming.

I'd further speculate the Oscar Later nature of this disruption will feed thru the structure to its very heart, first zig one way then zag the other, and dampen the entire <explitive deleted> shebang!

[WaltzCee]

In some way counter torques have to be addressed. Maybe generate an equal 2nd signal 180 deg out of phase like noise cancellation.

. . . or let it run up and down the axle shifting the balance of a spring driven artificial gravity field.

some how this problem has to be dealt with by some design.

[Leafy]

Hi Leafy, (you have a name I can spell),

The weight / weights, can be lifted up at No Cost, that's right at zero cost. I know it's hard to believe but, It can be done with a pendulum, and it's probably the only way that in can be done.

The weight of a pend. can change from a dead weight at 6:00, to perfectly balance in about 10 / 1,000 of a second then return, (lift), back up to 12:00. I know you don't believe it, but then neither does any one else--------------------------------Sam

I'm interest in anything that is no cost. lol

how can you get the pend. from 6 to 12 with no cost? what is perfect balance?

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi leafy,

It will help to draw a picture. Draw a circle, with a pend. at 3:00, and another one at 9:00, at an equal distance from the center, and both have the same weight, the static balance should be very good. The wheel is said to be balanced.

Swing / draw the pend. so that it is straight out at 3:00. For a real wheel you would have to bolt, fasten, / clamp the pend. to the wheel some way, even duck tape would work. But some how it has to be secured to the wheel. Now it will rotate with the wheel and be out of balance, (OOB), and continue to rotate down to 6:00. Normally that's where it would stay, and be very costly to lift back up to the top of the wheel.

However we like low cost or even better, no cost. So, the way to do that is to unfasten the pend by removing the bolts, clamps, duck tape or what ever you used secure it to the wheel. Now, the pend. is no longer in a rotating mode, it has changed back to the way it was before, (back to being a pendulum), and the wheel is now again perfectly balanced.

Instead of duck tape a directional bearing can be used to switch from mode to the other--------------------------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi Waltcy! I already know French, (we, we), it's English that I struggle with-------------------------Sam

[Leafy]

Seems like there are many French on this forum, and Germans too I supposed. We going to start another Renaissance. lol