The origin of the GRAVITATION.

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Endless loop.
Mikhail wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:08 pm These links don't explain anything.
If someone explains something to you, then be content with explanations and do not make me waste my time in vain.
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It's why way back in 2005 or earlier it was first said to build a simple and practical POP experiment (maybe just 2 opposed mechs) to isolate the 'thought to be a real-world advantage' wrangled from the inventors math.

The suggestion then was also shot down in flames IIRC.
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Fletcher wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:31 pm It's why way back in 2005 or earlier it was first said to build a simple and practical POP experiment (maybe just 2 opposed mechs) to isolate the 'thought to be a real-world advantage' wrangled from the inventors math.

The suggestion then was also shot down in flames IIRC.
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POP = Proof Of Principle

i.e. a tangible real-world experiment to prove the basic physical assumptions of a hypothesis.

In your case to ..

1. prove that a force bias occurs from your ideal management of hydraulics, floats, and mechanics.

2. That can cause a rotating force (torque).

3. That then can then be harnessed to form a self-sustaining rotating machine (a "runner"), with momentum gain above any initial input given.

Then you will know that your math advantage and the physical principles involved are sufficiently aligned and accurate enough for further development of the concept for optimization of your principle of operation.

Good luck !
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Thank you.

I'm not going to prove anything. I don't sell anything, but give for nothing, the planet is overheating, floods and fires are destroying cities, villages and forests are suffering and people are dying and we have to react, I think it's not too late. If anyone needs clean energy in unlimited quantities, and moreover, if anyone is going to make money from it, let them bother to design, count and verify. He can even paint them all the colors of the rainbow, the engines are open and free, everyone is free to use. I did what I could and I won't do it again.
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Yes, we understand your position.

However, your calculations alone, whilst being sufficient for you, are of insufficient form to persuade the majority of your target audience (and good intentions) to start a build based on your modeling alone. The 'gain conditions' you envisage are not obvious to anyone else but you, at this time. Education seems the only answer to that problem.

What you can take solace in (like a few others in the same position) is that your calculations and plans are on record, should one day someone else base a successful build of a self-moving machine on the same principles put forward in your hypothesis.

However, this glass-half-filled holding pattern strategy does nothing today to fulfill your good intentions for the earth and the people of it.

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For any person who went to school and understands something in mechanics, my calculations are enough. To understand the principle of operation of other calculations is not necessary.
There is no half-filled glass strategy. I have no desire and opportunity to make prototypes and prove something to someone. And I'm not going to do it. And stop pushing me to do something I won't do anyway.

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Mikhail wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:07 am
WaltzCee wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:53 am One of the chapters is going to be entitled:
  • Approaches to the Design of Perpetual Motion Machines
When you get the book I'd read that chapter first.
You haven't written anything yet. It's like saying: - I'll give you the skin of a bear that sleeps somewhere in a lair in Alaska. -:)
Let me check demand to see what I can do. What color do you want? You can have any color as long as it's brown.
It's like saying: - I'll give you the skin of a bear that sleeps somewhere in a lair in Alaska. -:)
also two-shay. That was good. Same boat different planet, earthling.
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Your messages gave me the idea to write a book too. I will describe in detail how it all started and what obstacles I had to overcome. I think the book will be interesting and exciting. Also, now you don't need to type on the keyboard, just dictate and the computer writes. Nothing complicated, I have been using the computer for 45 years, everything will turn out as it should.
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There you go .. the solution was always before you. Recorded for posterity and priority .. and .. educational tool, in one.

Just don't make it 800 pages long, ok.
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I don't do anything yet. It's definitely not something I like to do and have never done. I still don't know what will happen to it. I'm not promising anything, but I'll try. :)
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You can only try .. writing something up has a strange way of focusing the mind, like building a sim does. If your math is as water-tight as your floats/bellows then it augurs-well for you.

Good luck with it !
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Il y a cru, et il a perdu tel est la réalité de l'état de droit.
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SHADOW wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:49 am Il y a cru, et il a perdu tel est la réalité de l'état de droit.
Le citoyen appartient à l'état donc tout ce qu'il produit appartient à l'état, quelque soit le système politique.
J.B
Sauf quand l'état rate son coup, comme sa était mon cas.
Les contrôleurs ont été tellement sûr de la loi de conservation qu'ils n'ont pas cherché à comprendre et vérifié mes perpetuums, ils les ont publiés et c'était exactement ce que je voulus. -)
Depuis que le président d'un autre pays leur a expliqué que mes moteurs son valable, alors ils ont tombé dans un autre extrémité - ils mettent au secret tous les demande de brevets sur les moteurs sursitaires.
D'un extrême à l'autre.

Except when the state fails, as was my case.
The controllers were so sure of the conservation law that they didn't try to understand and check my perpetuums, they published them and that was exactly what I wanted. -)
Since the president of another country explained to them that my motors are valid, then they fell into another extremity - they secrecy all patent applications on overunitary motors.
From one extreme to the other.
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