a thought experiment. Compare the energy required for a round trip to the moon and back.
The moon is the cause of the tide. How might one harvest tidal energy equal to that trip? How long would it take? If you have to convert that energy to some more useful form, there will be losses.
In order to increase efficiencies one would need to match the energy to the task. Not enough and you fall short and efficiencies drop off with more surplus. Some may be thinking impedance matching. Duh!
Although this idea isn't a consideration for most in their designs, my client keeps a constant eye on that.
by WaltzCee » Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:02 am
Compare the energy required for a round trip to the moon and back.
the energy required is different,
You need more energy when you travel from the earth to the moon.
And you need less energy to travel from the moon to the earth.
So the direction of travel is important.
Your travel movement is against or with the force of gravity.
They would be equal if earth and moon have the same mass and the same density so that both will have the same diameter.
Fine point Georg. Along the way from the earth to its moon a traveler could harvest more energy from that gradient.
I could design a workable system harvesting tidal energy, then convert it into hydrogen, then a 90% solution of it & peroxide. Very doable.
Yet with the present technology as I understand it someone would have to throw the entire solar system behind them to reach the next nearest solar system. Alpha something.
My point
God did not create enough mass in all of creation for anyone to throw behind them to be able to deliver their nasty disgusting face into his presence.
His children can however boldly rush into His presence whilst He is on His throne trying to look busy.
Boogers running down their faces, usually whining about this or that. What gives us that right?
Not by power, nor by might.
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Yes !!!
Gas springs are needed in order to halve the weight of concrete masses.
What I think Mikhail is there is no reason why humanity can't meet their energy needs off of the surface of the earth.
I think your idea has merit yet it's unnecessarily complicated. When you add the mass of the air to that of the water then float Bessler's weights some where in there . .. .. .
Humanity needs clean energy here on earth and now, not outside the earth. Beyond the earth, energy will be needed later, when humanity will confidently go beyond the earth. In the present, going beyond the boundaries of the earth is only timid attempts of mankind.
The idea is not complicated, on the contrary, nowhere is simpler. Just a few parts and all are identical, nothing could be easier to produce on a robotic assembly line.
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Well It's not that we don't have clean energy already , hydro power ,wind power ,solar power ,atmospheric , they are also natural occurring sources , however there is no "over unity" for them thus , as far as i know , and as far as i imagine there probably won't be such a thing.
These "energy converters" also do not power themself , they just sit there collecting and converting from the source .
What we are still trying to do is use gravity instead.
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Georg Künstler wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:41 am
the energy required is different,
You need more energy when you travel from the earth to the moon.
And you need less energy to travel from the moon to the earth.
So the direction of travel is important.
Your travel movement is against or with the force of gravity.
Hello Mr Künstler,
A question came to me.
How would one design a craft looping up and down that gradient accumulating energy along the way making each pass higher than the previous one? And to such an extent it leaves the atmosphere.
Wind generators such as solar panels are not clean energy. Wind turbines kill hundreds of thousands of birds, and to produce them, solar panels require more energy than they produce. Wind generators depend on the wind and solar panels depend on the sun. Gravity engines don't depend on anything. Gravity is eternal and constant. Gravity is not a force, but an energy that must be used.
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Gravity is eternal and constant. Gravity is not a force, but an energy that must be used.
Why not use buoyancy to harvest the up and down motion of tide and a paddle to catch the ebb and flow. Then convert that energy to electricity and break down that salt water.
You get sea salt in the bargain. Once this is set up its like a seed. I'd think it would be low maintenance.
Maybe there's more money in letting this system continue then there is to tie our machinery to the very wheel works of creation.
Tesla did die a pauper.
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WaltzCee wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:18 pm
Why not use buoyancy to harvest the up and down motion of tide and a paddle to catch the ebb and flow. Then convert that energy to electricity and break down that salt water.
Bonjour Mikhaïl
Avez vous déjà fait chiffrer la réalisation de votre système?
Avez vous un plan coté et détaillé d'un flotteur pour réalisation?
Vous êtes vous rapproché des écoles Arts et Métiers ou école des mines pour les calculs?
J.B
Hello Mikhail
Have you already costed the realization of your system?
Do you have a rated and detailed plan of a float for realization?
Did you get close to Arts and Crafts or Mining schools for calculations?
J.B
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Bonjour,
En 2001 un atelier mécanique m'a demandé 50 mille francs. Sa peut aller de simple au double selon l’appétit de patron d'atelier.
Je ne pas des plans détaillés, je ne suis pas un ingénier des fluides.
Je ne pas chercher des écoles. L"ANVAR m’envoyer promener, la banque aussi et je laissé tomber, ça ne sert à rien à devenir plus célèbre que Pinocchio.
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