The origin of the GRAVITATION.

[Senax]

Bonjour,
Hello,
In 2001 a mechanical workshop asked me for 50,000 francs. Its can go from simple to double according to the appetite of the workshop boss.
I don't make blueprints, I'm not a fluid engineer.
I don't look for schools. The ANVAR to send me for a walk, the bank too and I gave up, it is useless to become more famous than Pinocchio.

The Frogs are realists - as they demonstrated in 1940.

Unlike the Beef Steaks - who did not give up.

[Senax]

Bonjour,
Hello,
In 2001 a mechanical workshop asked me for 50,000 francs. Its can go from simple to double according to the appetite of the workshop boss.
I don't make blueprints, I'm not a fluid engineer.
I don't look for schools. The ANVAR to send me for a walk, the bank too and I gave up, it is useless to become more famous than Pinocchio.

The Frogs are realists - as they demonstrated in 1940.
Unlike the Beef Steaks - who did not give up.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with wornout tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: “Hold on”;

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings—nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run—
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

[Mikhail]

The Frogs are realists - as they demonstrated in 1940.

Unlike the Beef Steaks - who did not give up.

I haven't been in this world yet.
On the other hand, my country of origin lost 1/5 of its population between 1941 and 1945, and there has been war since 2014. And it is possible that in a very short time something more serious will start again.. ((

[WaltzCee]

These "energy converters" also do not power themself , they just sit there collecting and converting from the source .
What we are still trying to do is use gravity instead.

That sounds like a transmission.

[Senax]

The Frogs are realists - as they demonstrated in 1940.

Unlike the Beef Steaks - who did not give up.

I haven't been in this world yet.
On the other hand, my country of origin lost 1/5 of its population between 1941 and 1945, and there has been war since 2014. And it is possible that in a very short time something more serious will start again.. ((

I have the highest regard for the Russians.
They certainly weren't cheese eating surrender monkeys

[Mikhail]

I have the highest regard for the Russians.
They certainly weren't cheese eating surrender monkeys

I am not Russian, I am of Ukrainian origin.

[agor95]

I have the highest regard for the Russians.
They certainly weren't cheese eating surrender monkeys

I am not Russian, I am of Ukrainian origin.

Well Senax the (Ersatz of grimer) has managed too offend a lot of people, monkeys and a large wedge of the cheeses in the world.

[Senax]

I am not Russian, I am of Ukrainian origin.

That's like saying,
I'm not British, I'm of Welsh origin.

[Senax]

Well Senax the (Ersatz of grimer) has managed too offend a lot of people, monkeys and a large wedge of the cheeses in the world.

[Mikhail]

That's like saying,
I'm not British, I'm of Welsh origin.

For you, perhaps. Not for me. You do not understand anything. For empty chatter, go to another forum.

[Senax]

Spoilsport. ;-)

[Georg Künstler]

by Mikhail » Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:23 pm

Wind generators such as solar panels are not clean energy. Wind turbines kill hundreds of thousands of birds, and to produce them, solar panels require more energy than they produce. Wind generators depend on the wind and solar panels depend on the sun. Gravity engines don't depend on anything. Gravity is eternal and constant. Gravity is not a force, but an energy that must be used.

The gravity force will be converted into energy if you allow an object to move into the direction of the greater object.
In that case the small object is accelerated towards the bigger object.
So the allow to move is an key factor.

I had given the example already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Cgxy7N-V0

The planes are one meter over the surface, they dont move in high and keep their position over the ground.
So they don't use energy, because they don't move ?
The energy to hold the position over the ground is exactly the energy that can be harvested.
The energy harvested is depending on the mass of the airplane and the time to hold, keep this position over the ground.
The fuel will be empty in a short time. The fuel energy is equivalent to the gravity energy.
If the fuel is empty, the airplane will reach the ground, and therefore it cannot move anymore.
Gravity energy will come back to gravity force.

[Mikhail]

It was not necessary to set an example with the plane, it was possible to stop at a suitcase without a handle that had to be moved from one platform to another at Berlin station, given that you had to go down the stairs to the underpass and climb the stairs to the platform. :)
It's not even funny. (

[agor95]

Hi Mikhail

I hope you do not mind. To get the thread back on topic I needed too update your original idea.

I have an idea that concerns gravity.

It is my opinion that gravitation is the result of mater being recycling in the Universe.

To explain:

1. The stars emit particles and electromagnetic radiation like light (and others parts of the spectrum).

2. The reddening of light, which warm us from the galaxies as they move away. This is explained by the reduction in the frequency of their photons over distance (and not by the effect Doppler).

3. The reduction effect is caused by dissipation and because of friction that causes a reduction in speed with the distance.

4. The presence in space of cosmological radiation, with low speeds, is a consequence of their dissipation in space. Again because of friction that causes a reduction in speed decreases with their distance.
Therefore photons of light, thus slowed down, until their speeds become relatively low.

This constitutes dark energy (or the missing mass) of the Universe.

An alternative description

The vacuum of space is not empty, but is filled with particles and energy.
This substance resembles that of a ideal gas (or liquid), in which matter can move without friction.

Note. friction (friction is proportional to speed), but friction does not reach zero.

5. This substance is recycled (transformed) into matter within the interiors of stars (and perhaps - planets) and other massive bodies of the Universe. They are the large "consumers" of this substance. With the help of great pressures and temperatures within their interiors, they recycle (transform) this substance into matter.

This flow creates an uninterrupted current, at very high speed (?), from the substance that makes up space. This worms the centers of stoles and planets.

The speed of this substance, while going through matter, is slowed down. This braking (resistance) - creates the force of GRAVITATION.

6. The other "consumers" of this substance are the elementary particles.
I do not understand why yet. (It is a step into the elementary sub-atom world).

As I have put conjectures forward I would not want to say anything negative.
Always keep an open mind.

You did get me thinking with point 2.

We are told that space is not at absolute zero kelvin of (-273c) but -270c.
This is the result of the extreme high frequency photons being converted down into the infrared.

So in principle large mass in space emitting ultraviolet light.
This could be at a distance that arrives here in the infrared so we gain warmth.

Regards

[agor95]

Hi Mikhail

I hope you do not mind. To get the thread back on topic I needed too update your original idea.

I have an idea that concerns gravity.

It is my opinion that gravitation is the result of mater being recycling in the Universe.

To explain:

1. The stars emit particles and electromagnetic radiation like light (and others parts of the spectrum).

2. The reddening of light, which warm us from the galaxies as they move away. This is explained by the reduction in the frequency of their photons over distance (and not by the effect Doppler).

3. The reduction effect is caused by dissipation and because of friction that causes a reduction in speed over distance.

4. The presence in space of cosmological radiation, with low speeds, is a consequence of their dissipation in space. Again because of friction that causes a reduction in speed over distance.

Therefore photons of light, thus slowed down, until their speeds becomes relatively low.

This constitutes dark energy (or the missing mass) of the Universe.

An alternative description

The vacuum of space is not empty, but is filled with particles and energy.
This substance resembles that of a ideal gas (or liquid), in which matter can move without friction.

Note. friction (friction is proportional to speed), but friction does not reach zero.

5. This substance is recycled (transformed) into matter within the interiors of stars (and perhaps - planets) and other massive bodies of the Universe. They are the large "consumers" of this substance. With the help of great pressures and temperatures within their interiors, they recycle (transform) this substance into matter.

This flow creates an uninterrupted current, at very high speed (?), from the substance that makes up space. This warms happens in the centres of stoles and planets.

The speed of this substance, while going through matter, is slowed down. This braking (resistance) - creates the force of GRAVITATION.

6. The other "consumers" of this substance are the elementary particles.
I do not understand why yet. (It is a step into the elementary sub-atom world).

As I have put conjectures forward I would not want to say anything negative.
Always keep an open mind.

You did get me thinking with point 2.

We are told that space is not at absolute zero kelvin of (-273c) but -270c.
This is the result of the extreme high frequency photons being converted down into the infrared.

So in principle large mass in space emitting ultraviolet light.
This could be at a distance that arrives here in the infrared so we gain warmth.

Regards