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an olive branch

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I'd like to offer a peace offering.

Can you produce a proof squaring a circle? I want to include that in a chapter in my book.

I know you know mathematics. You told me you did.

We can work out some royalty deal later.
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Re: Video Demonstrating Bessler's Secret

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With squaring a circle, in the unit circle;
1sin45 = π/4 in the first quadrant
-1sin45 = 7π/4 in the 4th quadrant (the unit circle works counter clockwise, I am saying it in a clockwise direction))
1sin45 = 5π/4 in the 3rd quadrant and
-1sin45 = 3π/4 in the 2nd quadrant.
It was something similar to this (π = π/3 + 5π/3 or 1 = 1/2 + 1/2) when AB Hammer decided I would work for him.
And those posts are in a none perpetual motion forum. The forum moderator told me that I could not say that math allows for perpetual motion.
So I deleted my posts and got banned. AB Hammer follows the rules and said perpetual motion is impossible and has never been banned
from a forum. His post about the keel effect demonstrates what he supports.
And he always offered me that olive branch if I worked for him. That's not offering peace. But now you have your answer Walt. And the math is
common knowledge that any 9th grader should know.
p.s., the secret to understanding Bessler's wheel is in what I just posted to you. Kind of why I understood what he wrote. So building
(aka, Research and Development) takes time. I'm okay with that.

p.s.s., I also have schooling in Propulsion Engineering, CATIA, Machining, etc. So I know how steam turbines, generator, etc. works along with how to design parts in 3D, how to read blueprints, etc. as well as physics and being familiar with math. Basically my experience helped me to recognize
Bessler's secret in his writings and is why I build. Oh yeah, I can also do wood working as well. Still, I have given you the key to understand Bessler's wheel as an Olive Branch of Peace. 😀
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Re: Video Demonstrating Bessler's Secret

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It was something similar to this (π = π/3 + 5π/3 or 1 = 1/2 + 1/2)
So you concluded one and twice its half are equal.

That's too deep for me. Deal's off.
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And while you say lead can't float, it is true. But if it is attached to a bellow with 20.6 times the volume of the lead, it will float in water
just as lead sinks. The secret as to why a submarine can surface, it pumps out its ballast tanks. And for it to submerge, it allows its
ballast tanks to fill.
Hopefully next you will not tell me this can't work? I'm in a good mood because the Attorney General for the State of Florida just sent me a letter.
I've been a naughty boy and they wanted to communicate with me while enclosing a check for $470. I'm also expecting an email with more money
because the police had to have a talk with me.

And with the drawing, as a lead weight approaches top center and another approaches bottom center, they'll both sink. This will pump air into the bottom bellow. Since I know that historical armorers use bellows, I know how to use them in a meaningful way. I think I might be able to pay a wood worker to build this for me. And please tell me that you understand that if a lead weight collapses one bellow while expanding another bellow, that air will be pumped into the lower bellow. Just take a 2 liter soda bottle and tie a weight to it. It'll float.
This is something that https://www.thenakedscientists.com/arti ... -scientist explains how well the
principle that I am describing has been known. Archimedes back in Greek times discovered the principle.

p.s., gravity acts on everything equally and this changes the buoyancy of the bellows. Cause and effect is what Newton said.
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Hopefully next you will not tell me this can't work?
1. Understand what buoyancy is.
2. Go back to first principles, understand why MT2 doesn't work.
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Tarsier79 wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:57 pm
Hopefully next you will not tell me this can't work?
1. Understand what buoyancy is.
2. Go back to first principles, understand why MT2 doesn't work.
And after posting a link to Archimedes, you are now saying I need to understand buoyancy? He discovered its scientific principle.
If you read the link you would've known this. With Mt 2 it's obvious. Since you already know why as with what buoyancy is, no need
for me to explain to you what you already know. Or are you trying to act like you're teaching me? I'd think my knowing Archimedes
discovered its principle would show that I understand what it is.
Of course I have crossed 3 oceans on ships from freighters to aircraft carriers and they're made of steel and float. Why? Do you
know the difference between centrifugal force and centripetal force? They are 2 different things yet they both spin around an axis.
Maybe you know what creates lift for an airplane and what allows for this function? I used to work for Boeing and being from Dayton, Ohio
am well versed in the methodology that the Wright Brothers used to invent flight. Airplane manufacturers like Boeing use their same methods.
And with how I pursued Bessler's wheel, I used the same methodology.
And the Wright Brothers were inspired by Otto Lilienthal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Lilienthal. The Wright Brothers realized
that the math for powered flight was different than that for a hang glider. Still, they said he helped to inspire their dream of powered flight. They
were willing to give credit to someone other than themselves. And with me, I can say Bessler. 😀

p.s., if you guys were more familiar with math then we'd have something to talk about.
Unfortunately AB Hammer said knowing math wasn't necessary. It is.
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Hopefully next you will not tell me this can't work?
1. Understand what buoyancy is.
2. Go back to first principles, understand why MT2 doesn't work.
you are now saying I need to understand buoyancy? He discovered its scientific principle.
If you read the link you would've known this. With Mt 2 it's obvious.
It clearly isn't to you. If you understood MT2 and how buoyancy works, then you should understand why the above design will or will not work.
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Re: Video Demonstrating Bessler's Secret

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Tarsier79 wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:37 pm A6CD8F82-CA7F-42E3-9C88-40BDC1FD1A2A_1_105_c[1].jpeg
Hopefully next you will not tell me this can't work?
1. Understand what buoyancy is.
2. Go back to first principles, understand why MT2 doesn't work.
you are now saying I need to understand buoyancy? He discovered its scientific principle.
If you read the link you would've known this. With Mt 2 it's obvious.
It clearly isn't to you. If you understood MT2 and how buoyancy works, then you should understand why the above design will or will not work.

MT2 has nothing to do with a buoyancy design in water. I could explain to you why MT 2 does not work but you'd need to
be more familiar with math. Hopefully you understand what irony is. Because AB Hammer wanted a working wheel for
himself, I have it to myself. I won't have to share credit thanks to him because he believed only 1 person should receive
credit for it and that was him. He didn't understand that it would take actual work. Hopefully you guys can accept that your
teacher prevented people from working with me because he said working for something isn't necessary.
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What I just realized is that since I don't own a car, next week I can rent a truck. I can also buy a portable work bench.
It's just that when I connect the top and bottom weight wheels, what I'm building needs to look like a wheel. Otherwise
no one would think Bessler's wheel.
Nah, they probably think Jim's Octopus because of it having 8 arms. And after this weekend the weather will be mild.
And since I do have a project that I need to do some design drawings for, that's opportunity for me. I suggested
something to someone about what they're working on. And they're will to consider my suggestion. Of course I told
them that if my suggestion works that we'll need to share credit equally.
It's also an idea that could be worth the most money so they know it's about an invention that can be patented.
And by sharing credit and what we know, we might make some money from it. With Bessler's wheel and the underwater
wheel, not much money to be made but can help with humanitarian efforts. Bessler's wheel mostly.
And the other person, they're aware of my work. They can see what I've been spending my money on. And for me, it
would be nice to work with someone else. 😀
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To give you guys some facts. When I lived somewhere else, I paid about $1,100 for wheels and tires for my car.
I moved and accepted that I got ripped off. The $470 was because the Florida State Attorney General's office collected
money from the company on behalf of people like myself and the law finally caught up with me. It is bad when it finds
you, right?
The other money I'll receive is because a person with the local fire department made a call in to the police. As a result
of what I did, I was apprehended. The person in uniform, in a fire department vehicle who detained me for the police
watched a motorist hit me in a marked cross walk with my having the light and wearing a bright yellow coat get hit by
a motorist who missed me. It was funny because they missed me they hit me and moved about about 15 feet on the
hood of their car.
2 instances where I had to interact with the legal system. I am a criminal because the legal system doesn't support
innocent people. And with the email I will be receiving, it is more money meaning in addition to as well as a higher
dollar value. Improper conduct/behavior by others won't make up for the past but I can make the most of the life that
I have left.
And for those who don't like me, the guy from the fire dept. realized I was still getting my bearings straight so he gladly
told the police officer what happened. And today I find his joke funny because the motorist missed me in my coat.

And we all know that when the Attorney General's office pursues you and someone from the fire department detains you
while they call the police it is because you are a criminal. We know that nothing good has happened or otherwise they
would not be involved. There just isn't another explanation.
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Squaring the Circle, you say?

It's already been solved... ;-)

https://www.quantamagazine.org/an-ancie ... -20220208/

(pdf of solution at link)
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MrTim wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:34 am Squaring the Circle, you say?

It's already been solved... ;-)

https://www.quantamagazine.org/an-ancie ... -20220208/

(pdf of solution at link)

Your friend didn't mention maintaining the same surface area. This might be the same as asking is your wife your sister as well?
A literal translation of the problem might be like pissing in the corner of a circle. It's a joke my family knows when you want to drive
someone crazy. Then again, you can't capsize a sailing boat with a keel when we all know it happens if you've been out to sea.
I mean if you and everyone else is hanging over the side while you're running to leeward, you're good, right? That's away from
the wind. Running into it you cut a little bit less of an angle. And with this, you can't run on an even keel. Just basic boating
knowledge.
Nope, a boat in port or under power can heave to on an even keel but that's not what sailing ships were designed for.

p.s., since πr^2 = 3.142 if π = 1 then the sqrt of 3.142 = 1.77
And now we know that a square that has 4 sides that are 1.77 dimension long equals πr^2 in area if the radius is 1.
The next question is, when the sands shift, then what? A wise man would use sand and not stone. It's about understanding
what the problem is.
This goes back to when Jesus said a wise man builds his house on a foundation of stone. Bit if mathematics shift the boundaries
then Jesus knew that sands could shift as well.
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Squaring the circle is a problem proposed by ancient geometers. It is the challenge of constructing a square with the same area as a given circle by using only a finite number of steps with compass and straightedge. The difficulty of the problem raised the question of whether specified axioms of Euclidean geometry concerning the existence of lines and circles implied the existence of such a square.
from wiki. Today it's synonymous with impossible.
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WaltzCee wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:52 am
Squaring the circle is a problem proposed by ancient geometers. It is the challenge of constructing a square with the same area as a given circle by using only a finite number of steps with compass and straightedge. The difficulty of the problem raised the question of whether specified axioms of Euclidean geometry concerning the existence of lines and circles implied the existence of such a square.
from wiki. Today it's synonymous with impossible.

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MT2 has nothing to do with a buoyancy design in water.
Buoyancy isn't air magically floating in water.
Just because you don't see the MT2 connection, doesn't mean it isnt there. It is the same for most other ball/lever MTs. It looks good left and right, but problems arise at the transitions....comprehension.

Anyway... more wasted breath.
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