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Bessler Wheel Secrets #3

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Here is the link to the third and final video in this series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iGkMkttx6E

Please forgive the hype I just needed a good laugh.

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There were 2 people viewing the video before I could get the thumbnail uploaded.
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Hi Mikeyned

Some good assumptions leading to an interesting and unique mechanism. Interesting to see you got it to move in the exact path of MT7. It almost follows the weight position on the drawing with equal rotational increments.

I also tried to get weights to move in a specific path for years.

I know I keep saying this. Vertical distance matters, horizontal does not (as much). Gravity is in the vertical direction, so it makes sense. This is apparent in your video of your mechanism. Every gravity wheel I have seen proves this.

Gravity is the energy transformer. It transforms weight height into movement and back again. It is a 0 sum game. Unfortunately, I don't know what the Prime Mover is. I suspect your design is as good a vehicle as any for the correct Prime Mover.
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The fact that the multiple clues lead me to a mechanism and lifting system that accurately mimic what is seen in drawing 7 is either one of the worlds biggest coincidences or it is dead on accurate.

However if there are any flaws in this series I would certainly like to hear what they might be.

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mikeyned wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:53 pm The fact that the multiple clues lead me to a mechanism and lifting system that accurately mimic what is seen in drawing 7 is either one of the worlds biggest coincidences or it is dead on accurate.

However if there are any flaws in this series I would certainly like to hear what they might be.

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  • 7 doesn't run, dead end.
    why is more critical than how.
    excluded middle?
    bias confirmation?
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WaltzCee,

Evidence is tantamount to truth.
Opinion is a fools bait.
I have grievously erred,
I should have specified “if anyone has any EVIDENCE….”
I presented 50 minutes of evidence in videos but you offer a smattering of pointless platitudes ?
Oh, "Advocate of God Almighty" I do believe both he and I expected more.
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Hi mIKEY

I like many others await Waltzy to actually post something that is original and not vacuous.
I even read his post for many pages looking for a post of substance. That time I will never get back.

Due to that Waltzy is in the vacuous ignore list. I show human compassion & understanding to see any change from time to time.

But alas when you remove the vacant phrases you end up with a blank post.

I for one appreciate your honest endeavours. The building of a reasoned framework to your presentation and the acquisition of your skills to present your research.

Waltzy best efforts I can remember was a photo of a McDonald's Napkin. And that drawing was piggy backed from the thread's conversation. Therefore not original.

Summary

miKEY your efforts are appreciated.
Waltzy's efforts are anticipated.
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mikeyned wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:53 pm The fact that the multiple clues lead me to a mechanism and lifting system that accurately mimic what is seen in drawing 7 is either one of the worlds biggest coincidences or it is dead on accurate.

However if there are any flaws in this series I would certainly like to hear what they might be.

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I think it might be a coincidence. There are many drawings with different paths that it would seem odd if your system didn't match one of them.
And like Tarsier says, the path isn't important anyway.
I don't think the elements of the drawing you believe lead you to the design are clues. The forks are in a different perspective in the drawing, so he could have meant them to be the same measurement. I'd like to think the square pulley is a clue to something because the measurement is equal between the two, but it's probably a coincidence too. The wheel drawings show relative proportions but to me they were meant to preserve just that, in the event anyone wanted to duplicate them and their performance as accurately as the ruler beneath them shows, once the actual secret is discovered.
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mikeyned wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:58 am WaltzCee,
  • a) Evidence is tantamount to truth.
    Opinion is a fools bait.

    b) I have grievously erred, I should have specified “if anyone has any EVIDENCE….”

    c) I presented 50 minutes of evidence in videos but you offer a smattering of pointless platitudes ?

    d) Oh, "Advocate of God Almighty" I do believe both he and I expected more.
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  • a) Are you really of that opinion?

    b) ah, you're in search of the blatant evidence looking right back at you. 7 doesn't run. Anything you've discovered along a path leading to it doesn't cause it to work. It's a dead end. You certainly have grievously erred. In spades.

    c) Equating quantity with quality is as lame as equating reasoning with platitudes.

    d) ....:) before you draw up your storyboard for the next presentation, try and have something to say.

    Then just get to the point. Don't be a ham.
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agor95 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:25 am Hi mIKEY

I like many others await Waltzy to actually post something that is original and not vacuous.
I even read his post for many pages looking for a post of substance. That time I will never get back.

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Well, since the manipulative den mommy is looking for some meat in a post, I expect I might comply.

Be very wary of clicking on any link agwhore (if that is her real name) posts. If you do go to any site she has, expect to have your hard drive parsed & backed up.

Never expect anything from agwhore except some rah rah cheer leading for what she approves and some manipulative tripe for what she doesn't.
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When your argument becomes nothing more than a personal attack you obviously have nothing else.
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mikeyned wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:58 am When your argument becomes nothing more than a personal attack you obviously have nothing else.
I like many others await Waltzy to actually post something that is original and not vacuous.
You heard the kettle calling you black, agwhore.

the kettle wrote wrote:I presented 50 minutes of evidence in videos but you offer a smattering of pointless platitudes ?
The fact that the multiple clues lead me to a mechanism and lifting system that accurately mimic what is seen in drawing 7 is either one of the worlds biggest coincidences or it is dead on accurate.
Your dichotomy excludes other possibilities.

Start with that one first, kettle.
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There is no official diagnosis or test for a psychopath however there are signs:
• Expressing anger and arrogance on a regular basis
• Aggressive behavior in public that violates social norms
• Insulting the reputation of others attempting to gain dominance
• Unable to distinguish between right and wrong or their opinion and truth
• Lack of remorse or empathy
• Tendency to lie often or excessively criticize
• Twisting the words of others to hurt or manipulate
• Total disconnection with responsibility
• Claims a divine alliance, knowledge or judgment

likely to also exhibit these traits:
• impulsive, abusive
• lacking close personal relationships
• feign superficial charm
• light switch wild aggression and calm
• gets very angry if rebuffed or questioned real or imagined

Lifted from an old text book and oh, yes, a warning from the teacher: A real psychopath must get "the last word" or it will forever haunt their unstable minds.

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Bessler might have deliberately arranged dead end clues. He knew where he initially looked and failed. Others probably would be looking in the same area.

The path you took could easily have been Bessler's misdirection.

or as eccentrically1 suggested just an ordinary run of the mill coincidence.
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Fine personal attack you've offered up in defense of your lame reasoning.
gets very angry if rebuffed or questioned real or imagined
You seem to fit this to the T
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