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That clears up everything !!!
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How so?
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mikeyned wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:58 am Anyone ever notice this ?
The two arms are connected to different weights on the opposite sides.
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Why can't I get the stupid image to show up ??

There wasn't much comment about this.

Any ideas?

What are your thoughts, James,?
I noticed when this idea came up, you began your shit show.

Do you think this an important MT?
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Bessler wheel secret #4.
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Everything I Need To Know.

There once was a herd of sheep. Some of the sheep clustered together in little groups but arguments and social etiquette dominated their interactions. Many individuals preferred to remain solitary and hidden among the trees and rocks only occasionally coming out to drink.
It was no use for a good shepherd to call the sheep because they have strong inclinations toward disconfirmation bias and the Dunning-Kruger Effect. So much so that they choose to ignore abundance and are left to wander about aimlessly, content to find occasional little morsels.
But anywhere there are sheep there are wolves and for some reason there is always a snake. Those psychopathic slithering spirits that infected Wagner and Borlach are still present.
Oh, wise shepherds, lift up your heads. You will be abused. Others will be rewarded for your work. That is the real world of sheep and snakes. After all, at this point, we are only planting seeds.

The problem with the world is that intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence. -Charles Bukowski

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We all get fleeced at some time or other. Even by snake oil salesmen.

That is why we have religions to bring Barrma [karma] into the world.
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eccentrically1 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:48 pm Bessler wheel secret #4.
I guess we'll get to #4 after all the appropriate folk are insulted.

I'd jump in with some ideas yet they are most likely unoriginal and/or empty headed.
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mikeyned wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:08 pm Everything I Need To Know.

There once was a herd of sheep.
. .. .. .

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so it was in the land of MiKey.
and the men were men and he herd of sheep were nervous.
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mikeyned wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:58 am When your argument becomes nothing more than a personal attack you obviously have nothing else.
You say that with such confidence.

Guess that means you're shooting blanks.

The problem with the world is that intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence. -C Bukowski
But, CryBabyWallyCee needs a checkup.... from the neck up.
Maybe your self righteousness is your karma.
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CryBabyWallyCee

Proverbs 24 9 The thought of foolishness is sin: and the scorner is an abomination to men.

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It appears the plagiarizing Pharisee's thread has been adulterated.
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Repeating a lie, or saying something wrong AGAIN after it is explained that "you does not understand" (Intentionally poor grammar for his obvious limited intelligence) does not strengthen your point but it does make you look stupid.

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Hey besslah enthusiasts,

Has anyone figured out the secret the ham and plagiarizing pharisee disclosed?
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WaltzCee wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:02 am Hey besslah enthusiasts,

Has anyone figured out the secret the ham and plagiarizing pharisee disclosed?

And yet you don't understand why 90º to the axle matters. or what that has to do with pulleys and lines.
Do you know enough math and engineering to now how Romans lifted beasts from below the floor of the
coliseum?
That has to do with something Bessler knew because that uses pulleys and lines as well. Only Bessler
considered how to conserve linear momentum and then conserve angular momentum. I doubt he knew
it then but only how a swing conserves momentum. They actually use a pendulum to explain that.
And when they do they don't say conservation of angular momentum. There is a technical difference. If
a weight is spin, its spin is angular momentum. When a pendulum's weight passes bottom center and
swings from a lower fulcrum, it conservation of momentum because the path of the weight has changed.
Of course I'm certain that Bessler used 2 pulleys as guides to shift the swing of the pendulum. Since the
pulleys aren't lifting anything they're not performing any work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcURj0bQx98

According to that video my build is using a 2:1 mechanical advantage. If my weight wheels weigh 1.36 kg
then it takes 0.68kg of force to lift it. Walt, do you know how they lifted beasts onto the coliseum floor in
Roman times? I think they used 6 pulleys on their lifts.
If so then a 420 lb. lion only needed 70 lbs. of work to lift it. Can you lift 70 lbs.? Could you imagine if that beat
like a drum? Bessler used drums around his axle which didn't rotate. His wheel rotated.

Walt, I have watched documentaries that got into how the Romans built and operated coliseums, steam baths,
transported water, built roads, etc. One documentary I watched showed the pulleys being used with no mechanical
advantage. They just shifted the load. So if the video is correct, the people recreating the system the Romans used
didn't configure it correctly.

@All, on a side note, with what I'm building I might post the math. How does using 2 pulleys with a drum give
a mechanical advantage. If that video can be realized in my reconstruct of Bessler's Wheel, it can be tested.
Can what worked 2,000 years ago work today? I'm not sure. How would we find out?
This creates an odd situation. The parts of the line do not change between 2 pulleys as the video shows. The
weight on my build is only connected once and not twice. You guys will need to become very familiar with this
to understand why it matters. It could allow what I'm building to work much better.
I guess now the question is, would anyone care to discuss pulleys and load?
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