Simple Roller Wheel

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All this tells me is how much damage the "kill effect" (keel effect) and a few people who ran with it did.
That's basically rlortie and ab hammer. Have to prove the "kill effect" wrong or won't be allowed to build.
I'll just work offline. Feel better watly? It is what you wanted, right?

And when I asked John Collins about having people post less toxic, I saved his reply.
Utrecht University has this book;
https://www.uu.nl/en/special-collection ... nn-bessler

It's digital version;
https://objects.library.uu.nl/reader/in ... g/mode/1up

It will be an odd story if my build works and then Germany uses it to generate electricity. After all, I am literally 110% disabled. 10% military
and 100% medical. And yet I was attacked because I was working through severe medical problems. This is because why?
With the wheel, it's simple. When the overbalanced weight rotates from 18º above the level to 18º below it, 1/3 of that energy from overbalance
would rotate the top weight. I took the time to do the math. And while businesses would love a free product, I am mindful how a few people
were allowed to make this forum toxic. I'll probably give the money to charity. It's just that I have a wind turbine design that would probably
revolutionize the wind generating market. But I need to be successful so I can pursue opportunity outside of the U.S.

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I'll let you guys know the math you missed. When the top weight is rotating, the diagram
shows 2 weights. If the weight to the right weighs 0.5kg and the weight at bottom left
weighs 1kg, that is a balanced position.
Why it will take less energy to rotate the top weight than the weight to the right of the axle
has dropping (about 36º of rotation). And most of the rest of the time it's just overbalanced
and only rotates the wheel.
It's in the math. π*2.5 = 7.85. Don't get it? 1/π = 0.32. The average distance from top and
bottom center. So it'd be 0.32 * 2.5mm = 0.8mm. The amount of overbalance lost while
the top weight is being rotated. That still leaves 17mm.
And to go with 45º so it's 90º beyond that and 90º inside of that (45 + 45) then that leaves
8mm of overbalance when rotating the top weight. And yet from 45º to 90º is less of a
linear distance than 0º to 30º along the x axis. Basically 14mm of overbalance might
be lost when rotating the top weight.
But have to fear being attacked.

[agor95]

Hi James

Thank you for placing your concept in a separate thread which it deserves.

I hope members will supply position assistance in developing your design.

Are the two masses fixed to he main disc?

Regards

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I think when ab hammer proved that I killed someone to most people in here by pm'ing people he killed the forum.
And yet he had rllortie's complete support. Why he called me a fraud. With what watlcy said, it just shows how much
attacks against me have been supported because I worked open source and was willing to work with other people.
If you turned the discs on your design so the axis of rotation is 90º perpendicular to gravity then you'd see "my" design.
With CATIA you can design in 3D and then get a view that is 2D. An example is with your 3D design, cutout a 2D plane
at the center of the axle of the primary wheel.
If you position the axle on the wheels in a wheel 90º to gravity and cutout a 2D plane then you'll see what I drew. When
you go 3D, unless the disc around the main axle is moving perpendicular to gravity you'll lose energy. Basically all axles
need to be aligned with each other to maximize conservation of energy.

p.s., if you want a 3D design, then have your primary wheel somewhere between sin 15º and sin 30º. Then as your wheels
in a wheel spin/rotate the balance of your primary wheel will shift accordingly. Then it'd be about like the Moon orbiting the
Earth. 1 rotation per orbit. And yet your primary wheel could be tilted with precession in mind.
Basically 1 rotation of the wheels in a wheel would equal 1 rotation of your primary wheel. Then you'd need to consider the
linear drop of a weight to how much it is lifted (rotated upwards on a plane). When the primary will tilts it should be able to
generate sufficient leverage. If not then you'd need to time the rotation of the wheels in a wheel.
And with such a design, a belt might be needed to time the wheels in a wheel with the primary wheel. Anyway, this should
give you a good outline to workout the math with.
To give you an idea, draw a disc that is on a 15º plane. 90º to that have a point that is down. Then shift that point to the
under balanced side. Then calculate the drop and the rotation of the wheel in a wheel. And this is as the disc rolls on its edge.
As to opposite wheels in a wheel rotate in opposite direction on the wheel, when one rotates downward the other is rotating
upward. They cancel each other out because one is lifting the other. The primary wheel will rotate more so excess energy/
momentum should be realized. Calculate the velocities and determine ratios of movement. That should keep you busy for a while.

[agor95]

Hi James

I hope members will supply position

Slight typo that is 'positive'. I go word blind when focusing on code to long.

The concept I am working on needs the wheel main and within wheels to be on non-orthogonal axes.

So these wheels can not be either on the same shared axis or one that is 90 degrees to the others.

So there is a major difference in concept between these two designs.

Regards

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Hi James

I hope members will supply position

Slight typo that is 'positive'. I go word blind when focusing on code to long.

The concept I am working on needs the wheel main and within wheels to be on non-orthogonal axes.

So these wheels can not be either on the same shared axis or one that is 90 degrees to the others.

So there is a major difference in concept between these two designs.

Regards

All axis would be 90º to the primary wheel. It's basically like a teeter-totter that rotates in a circle except everything
rotates instead of tilts. With the attached image, the line from the primary axle is where it's on the ground. This means
that the overbalance is the weight in the up position. The wheel rotating 90º will be a greater distance than the wheel
in a wheel rotating 90º. Anyway, it is something for you to consider if you want to go 3D.
The trick would be converting the rotation of the wheel (it's drop as it rotates) into the rotation of wheels in a wheel.
While it doesn't show it clearly, opposing wheels in a wheel would rotate in the opposite direction.
You'll need to verify this for yourself. As it rotates in a counterclockwise direction all of the wheel would rotate in
opposite directions. A figure 8 with a belt would allow for it.
It is a tricky proposition. Why timing 1 weight to be rotated is better than continuously rotating a weight.

[agor95]

Hi James

You should think about creating the Larangian and Hamiltionian of this device.

It's a skill that only improves with practice. The more members that skill up the better.

Regards

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Hi James

You should think about creating the Larangian and Hamiltionian of this device.

It's a skill that only improves with practice. The more members that skill up the better.

Regards

This is something you can try. With the primary axis, have an internal spline. Then an opposing spline
that goes into can be tapered more than the plane of the primary wheel tilts. Then the primary wheel
could rotate around its non-rotating axle. Then rotation could be transferred to the wheels in a wheel.
I already have enough work to do as it is and you want to work in 3D. Maybe someone in here will be
willing to work with you? To calculate work, place the axis of a wheel in a wheel at its highest point.
Then when that wheel in a wheel is rotated 180º, that is how much that weight either drops or is lifted.
The drop it will cause in the primary wheel will be greater. And as I mentioned, if 2 opposing wheels
in a wheel rotate in opposite directions then they might actually cancel out the work being done to
lift/rotate a weight to its OB position. It should at least use 1/2 as much work.

[agor95]

Hi James

It is good we have projects to investigate. I have quite a number of them myself.

Lets hope there are members who have some spare time for you.

Regards

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Hi James

It is good we have projects to investigate. I have quite a number of them myself.

Lets hope there are members who have some spare time for you.

Regards

If my Bessler build works out then most likely I'll be involved with "green" energy for off grid
and humanitarian aid. And that would help me to get something out of what I've put into this.
With what I showed you, it might help you to understand how timing of motion will matter in
your designs.

[WaltzCee]

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And again, I am an a$$hole.

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I think we might be getting somewhere.

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And again, I am an a$$hole.

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I think we might be getting somewhere.

I think you're ab hammer anymore. After all, I am the ultimate fraud. I conceal my true identity. And since you said that when I went to church that
I molested kids, Jesus said to remove the beam from your eye before you remove the stye from mine.
Matthew 7:5; You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

So I'll ask you, did you accuse me of what you did? Even if not physically, was it in your heart to do it? After all, when ab hammer accused me of something, he was being the hypocrite. And yet some people did not know what Jesus had said.

When ab hammer accused me of killing someone, he was probably accusing me of killing him. After all, he was rlortie's partner and was a highly
credible member of the perpetual motion community. And when I was told to give my work to him (literally), I didn't. He needed to protect his
credibility. Basically rlortie IMO used ab hammer to extort information. And yet with what is now being posted it does show an understanding of math
and mechanics is necessary. Kind of why I want agor to understand how it would look to the public if he's not a co-inventor on an idea that he
helped to realize. The public would say he is being ripped off because I am not saying that I am helping him but that I understand this. And that could
create a significant backlash as far as public opinion goes.

p.s., ab hammer said that perpetual motion forums are his church where he teaches people to believe. an example is that I have to be personally
pleasing to ab hammer and he liked to call me a little boy. Since I was over 18 it wasn't illegal. If I were under 18 then the police would've done
something. I still consider it as sexual assault because I'd have to be personally pleasing someone.
And if my Bessler's Wheel build works, I'll be able to ask why forum owners and moderators support that type of behavior when I wanted to work with someone who can actually contribute something except for saying because I'm nice to you, you have to be nice to me. And forum rules support
that type of behavior or otherwise I am the problem.

[WaltzCee]

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I think you're ab hammer anymore.
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Well, well, well Queen Queef, every one knows thinking isn't your strong suit.

I'm making John Collins and Scott Ellis aware of this as well. I might be able to demonstrate a working wheel this week.
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You thought had a working wheel and could show it in June. (Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:37 pm).

Too busy spinning yarn(s)?

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Too busy spinning yarn(s)?

What would you call accusing me of molesting kids in church when I was 13 or 14?
That's about the same as ab hammer accusing me of killing someone. Kind of why
I said ab hammer and his friends (like you) killed these forums.
What I find strange is someone posting what a child molester says and does. This isn't
the right forum for that.
It's back to what Jesus said;

Matthew 7:5; You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see
clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
https://biblehub.com/matthew/7-5.htm

According to Jesus it's you that has a problem. Would you disagree with Jesus? While ab hammer
knows what the Bible says, so do I. Jesus also said;
Matthew 6:19-21; “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy,
and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths
and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is,
there your heart will be also.

Yep, Jesus said people will try to steal something of value. And yet people do not understand the real
value of Bessler's Wheel. It might help to supply Europe with the energy it needs. And if my wind turbine
design is revolutionary as well, then using energy for political gain will not be as effective in the future.
And watlcy, since I said that it is my opinion that Sina-Drums covered this song because she knew I
was working on Bessler's Wheel, I think it's on topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW4NP8SgIRc

p.s., watlcy, if I change things, it's because I want to work with and get along with other people. One advantage
I have is that if I had a PhD I'd know a lot more math and less about other things. It's like what I'm pursuing in
Atmospheric Chemistry and Astrophysics, I've read hundreds of research papers. That's a literal statement.
And my new Facebook page; https://www.facebook.com/Atmospheric.Ch ... trophysics
With the different things that I am pursuing, I can wear blue jeans and a t-shirt. What I cannot be is a rude individual.

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@agor95, you need to post that if this idea is worth $3 million Euros that you have no interest in that money.
You need to post if people make $1 million Euros from an idea that I, agor95 originated, I don't care.
That should waive your rights to pursue any lawsuit. Failure to post it means that you might like making
$1 million Euros. You need to post that you do not want $1 million Euros. You need to say if that is what
the idea that you originated is worth, you simply don't want the money.
Until you post something, the idea is dead in the water. You need to be very clear on not wanting to
profit from this. And you also need to say that your post is also your electronic signature waiving your
rights to pursue any legal action in regards to such an invention.
And from the date of the first post of said invention, the 1 year time limit started counting down.
Because what's online can be edited and deleted, what's posted will need to be saved. And when this
is known between parties and accepted then work can begin.