Part Three is the Charm

[SHADOW]

Plus simple que la machine simple, que reste t'il si on exclu le levier?

Un bâton de Majorette !!!!!

J.B



Simpler than the simple machine, what’s left if we exclude the lever?

A stick of Majorette!!!!

J.B

[eccentrically1]

In our neck-of-the-woods (at earths surface) both appear to have a gain in energy ! Only the common type is well known or understood.

Yes, momentum transfer from earth to wheel might seem like a 'true pm' and, if accomplished, would represent a legitimate energy gain (boost) in the wheel. Whether or not a mechanism might be found to somehow effect this momentum transfer is another matter, but at least the idea isn't predicated on magical thinking. So, what would be the system requirements for such a momentum transfer?

I think it's magical thinking where B's wheel is concerned. P = m x v. Both objects have the same velocity. The mass of each is constant. Does the record show the wheel's velocity increasing?

[Leafy]

Each time we speed up or slow down a mass, something is speed up or slow down in the opposite direction so momentum is always conserved. It may cost nothing to speed up or slow down. If we speed everything up, the amount of energy in the universe keep increasing. The opposite is true, we can slow down everything even atomic particles and it would decrease the amount of energy of the universe. Pretty much energy can be created and destroyed.

[agor95]

If we speed everything up, the amount of energy in the universe keep increasing.

How will you know the universe has speeded up?

Regards

[Leafy]

How will you know the universe has speeded up?

Regards

1/ the Bessler wheel keep creating heat from nowhere
2/ the universe is expanding

[agor95]

1/ the Bessler wheel keep creating heat from nowhere
2/ the universe is expanding

The part of the universe we can see is assumed to be expanding.
That is not all of the universe.

Did Bessler wheel create heat?

[Leafy]

Did Bessler wheel create heat?

No, bearing friction is not heat lol yes, it creates heat.

The bad part is he couldn’t use that heat for his family during the end of his life. Well, 100 watts from 12 ft wheel which he smashed isn’t enough for warming anyway. Sigh

[agor95]

Did Bessler wheel create heat?

No, bearing friction is not heat lol yes, it creates heat.

The bad part is he couldn’t use that heat for his family during the end of his life. Well, 100 watts from 12 ft wheel which he smashed isn’t enough for warming anyway. Sigh

Well he made 100 watts smashing his work. Then made more by burning it.

[WaltzCee]

. .. .. .

Here is one Illuminati's take on Creation:

In the Beginning, there is The Infinite One. This is the Source of All. Intelligent Infinity. It is the undifferentiated absolute. Within It, is unlimited potential, waiting to 'become'. Think of it as the "uncarved block" of your Taoist traditions.

Infinite Intelligence, becoming 'aware' of Itself, seeks to experience Itself, and The One Infinite Creator is 'born', or 'manifest' (This appears to your 3rd Density comprehension as "Space"). In effect, the 'Creator', is a point of focused Infinite Consciousness or awareness, into Infinite Intelligent Energy. The One Infinite Creator also becoming self aware, seeks too to experience Itself as Creator, and in so doing, begins the next step down in the Creational spiral. The One Infinite Creator, in focusing It's Infinite Intelligence, becomes Intelligent Energy (which you could call the Great Central Sun), and divides Itself into smaller portions of Itself, that can then in turn experience themselves as Creators (or Central Suns). In other words, each Central Sun (or Creator) is a 'step down' in Conscious awareness (or distortion) from the Original 'thought' of Creation. So "In the beginning" was not "The Word", but Thought. The Word, is thought expressed and made manifest as Creator.

There is Unity. Unity is All there is. Infinite Intelligence, and Infinite Energy. The two are One, and within them, is the potental for all Creation. This state of Consciousness could be termed as 'Being'.

Infinite Intelligence does not recognize it's 'potential'. It is the undifferentiated absolute. But Infinite Energy recognizes the potential of 'becoming' all things, in order to bring any desired experience into 'being'.

Intelligent Infinity can be likened to the central 'Heartbeat' of Life, and Infinite Energy as the Spiritual 'Life-blood' (or potential) which 'pumps out' for the Creator to form the Creation.

This image may assist your comprehension:

Intelligent Infinity can be likened to the central 'Heartbeat' of Life, and Infinite Energy as the Spiritual 'Life-blood' (or potential) which 'pumps out' for the Creator to form the Creation


Creation is based upon the 'Three Primary Distortions of The Infinite One'.

1). Free Will:

In the first Law (or distortion) of Creation, the Creator receives the Free Will to know and experience Itself as an individuated though (paradoxically) unified aspect of The One.

2). Love:

In the second Law of Creation, the initial distortion of Free Will, becomes a focus point of awareness known as Logos, or 'Love' (or The Word in biblical terms). Love, or Logos, using It's Infinite Intelligent Energy, then takes on the role of co-creating a vast array of physical illusions ('thought forms') or Densities (which some call Dimensions) in which according to It's Intelligent design, will best offer the range of 'potential' experiences in which It can know Itself.

In effect, the One Infinite Creator, in dividing Itself into Logos, could be termed in your 3rd Density understanding as a 'Universal Creator'. In other words, Logos, creates on a Universal level of Being. Logos creates physical Universes, in which It and the Creator may experience theirself.

("Let there be Light")

3). Light:

To manifest this Infinite spiritual or 'Life-Force' Energy into a physical thought form of Densities, Logos creates the third distortion, of Light. From the three original Primary distortions of The One into making the Creation, arise myriad hierarchies of other sub-distortions, containing their own specific paradoxes. The goal of the Game is to enter into these in further divions of Creation, and then seek to harmonize the Polarities, in order to once again know Oneself as the Creator of them.

The nature of all such physically manifest Energy, is Light. Wherever thus exists any form of physical 'matter', there is Light, or Divine Intelligent Energy at it's Core or Centre.

Something which is Infinite cannot be 'other than', or 'many', An Infinite Creator knows only Unity. Thus, drawing upon It's Infinite Intelligence, the Infinite Creator designed a blueprint based on the finite principles of Free Will of Awareness and sub-level Creations, which in turn, could become aware of themselves, and seek to experience themselves as Creators. And so the "Russian Doll" style experiment was 'stepped down' and down and down. Levels of Creation within levels of Creation.

The One Infinite Creator (or Great Central Sun) steps down It's Infinite Energy to become Logos. Logos in turn designs vast Universes of Space (as yet unmaterialized), stepping down and splitting Itself again, into Logoi (plural), in other words, into an array of Central Suns which will each become a Logos (or 'co-creator') of It's own Universe, with each unique individualized portion of the One Infinite Creator, containing within It as It's very essence, Intelligent Infinity.

Using the Law of Free Will, each Universal Logos (Central Sun) designs and creates It's own version or perspective of 'physical reality' in which to experience Itself as Creator. Stepping down again, It focuses It's Intelligent Energy and creates the unmanifest form of Galaxies within Itself, and splits Itself into yet further 'co-creator' portions ('Sub-Logos' or Suns) which in turn will then design and manifest their own ideas of physical reality in the form of points of Conscious Awareness that we call Suns Stars and Planets.

A 'planetary entity' (or 'Soul') begins the first Density of experience, into which another individualized portion of The One can incarnate. Just as with all Logos and Sub Logos of Creation, each Soul is yet another smaller unique portion of The Infinite One. At first, the Intelligent Energy of the planet is in a state that you could call 'chaos', meaning that It's Energy is undefined. Then the process begins again. The planetary Energy begins to become aware of Itself (the 1st Density of awareness is 'Consciousness'), and the Planetary Logos (sub-sub-Logos in effect) begins to create other downward steps within Itself, and the internal make up of the planet begins to form; as the raw elements of air and fire combine to 'work on' the Waters and Earth, thus arising conscious awareness of their 'being', and the process of 'evolution' begins, forming the 2nd Density.

2nd Density beings begin to become aware of themselves, as being 'separate', and thus begin to evolve toward the 3rd Density of self-conscious-awareness, (the lowest Density into which a 'human soul' can incarnate).

Humans in turn (or the Souls incarnated within them), seek to 'return to the Light' and Love, from which they came, as they begin the journey of progression, from 3rd Density up to the 8th Density, and the return to The Infinite One-ness.

In all this I notice a subtle "distortion" of the bible, and at times not so subtle. There's an old idea, precept upon precept. What I learn should build on what I already know.

For example I know from Koine Greek logos indeed means word, not love. In the Greek there are 3 terms for love. I've noticed this same teaching style in someone else's exegesis. Keeps the teacher in a job.

I can't manage to read the site where this 'illumination' eminated from a second time. The whole context was more enlightening. I did snag this quote from either that author or a fellow traveler:

Never take what another says to you as the truth. Your purpose here is to find your own truth. You must use your own discernment at all times.

I might quibble for some time with this 'illuminated' understanding but to what end?

I think the source of this wisdom is from a seed God planted on earth, " and I saw Lucifer descend from heaven like a bolt of lightening. "

I also think it ties into George Bush Sr's declaration of a new world order and the mark of the beast.

[WaltzCee]

My previous thoughts:

I appreciate all the comments yet especially yours Fletcher. I intend to name this
prime mover The Fletcher. It doesn't disprove N3, yet it does nullify it. That's
the first case, a mechanical answer to N3.

• The Fletcher: A mechanical contrivance that catches and stores RKE using
  some of that energy to negate the counter torque produced to collect it. This
  mechanism will sense the appropriate time and place to send that energy then
  create an arrow (hence The Fletcher) and strike the proper point at the precise time.

The second case is the death knell for N3. Calling Newton a liar maybe was a bit harsh.
He just wasn't telling the truth. :)

• Walter's First Law of Motion: For some actions there exists a reaction that is
  neither opposite nor equal. This absolutely is a function of time and space.

Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:27 pm

Instead of Rocky, the flying squirrel, I used some unusual mechanics.

[Fletcher]

In our neck-of-the-woods (at earths surface) both appear to have a gain in energy ! Only the common type is well known or understood.

Yes, momentum transfer from earth to wheel might seem like a 'true pm' and, if accomplished, would represent a legitimate energy gain (boost) in the wheel. Whether or not a mechanism might be found to somehow effect this momentum transfer is another matter, but at least the idea isn't predicated on magical thinking.

So, what would be the system requirements for such a momentum transfer?

Probably an easy way to describe that would be: the wheel is "rolling downhill" even though held in place by supports.

So, what would be the system requirements for such a momentum transfer?

No magic, just weights and levers. I've almost got it figured out, it's really simple... ;-)

Always enjoy your sense of humour MrTim .. keeping it real, as does ovyyus.

You might get the last laugh as I believe it was "just weights and levers" (ok .. a bit more ,,, but hardly worth mentioning ;7), and "no magic" required, lol.

Comment : Eventually everyone has to turn their mind to the perplexing problem of the B. 'runners' energy source. Some just say it was faked and would run down as the internal source was depleted (W's. assertion, and why he built a spring powered wheel that he claimed could reproduce all the tests completed on B's. wheels - funnily enough it revolved much slower). What about batteries then ? (Volta year 1800 and the Baghdad Battery circa 2000 years ago). Nothing to see here, let's go home. Some say the maids testimony that it was hand cranked must be true (even W. admits that the translocation test disproved that, and Karl of course). Some say it must be a known or unknown environmental force, such as heat or pressure differentials acting as a self-winding spring analogue, citing Cox' clock [James Cox born in 1723 after B.] which he called a "true PMM" and appeared to be accepted as such [at that time in history]. They also give the example of Cornelis Drebble [died 1633] and his "true PMM" driven by diurnal temperature and pressure changes which never needed winding. Unfortunately no one since Drebble thru to today has been able to produce a machine based on these environmental forces that comes even close to the "power" and load tests of B's. wheels (not even with modern technology and efficiency). Theoretically it is possible using 'enviromentals' as its energy source but their 'energy density' doesn't compare to B's. runners. A nice tidy answer to many things (B. and carbon economies) if he had used those and we just have to be more efficient. Trouble was B. claimed his was "true mechanical Perpetual Motion" and he writes about Drebble so was aware of him and his work. Ok .. that's some background and perspective.

So the problem is two-fold : Come up with some sort of plausible theory for the supply of 'energy' to cause the wheels to start from a small push start (bi-directionals) to full rpm in 1 or 2 turns. [for ECC1 .. this is an increase in velocity.]. Traditionalists say it must get its input energy to turn into mechanical energy output from somewhere. I'd say that is correct, and why I put forward an alternative theory that I think is plausible, the "momentum exchange - quasi-energy theory". I've written enough about it to make a fish's eyes water.

The other problem is come up with a plausible device that can gain momentum / RKE (and perform mechanical Work tasks) and not need internal and periodic energy replenishment per se. Mr Tim likes levers and weights, apparently so does Mr B., referring to the Toy's Page (TP). How I thought about it was to compartmentalize and I "black-boxed" it. I imagined an ordinary conservative OOB wheel that did not self-accelerate and gain momentum. Then I added a black-box Prime Mover internally (the black-box can't be seen thru, it's just there and contains some mechanical implements from the TP, in unknown order and arrangement). These would be Bill's "system requirements for momentum transfer" or the 'levers and weights' favoured by Mr Tim (and myself as it turns out). Obviously the objective is for a mechanical apparatus existing outside the black-box that allows the momentum exchange theory to be tested, theoretically giving conservative wheels' gains (re : the boost) in momentum / RKE and which can be put to Work. IOW's duplicate the essence of B's. tests and more.

Time will tell whether my theory is correct, and the device I eventually thought of to exploit it, is good. Wouldn't want to put percentages on it. In the mean time I am open to other plausible ideas for a B. runner energy source, and devices to exploit it.

[mryy]

In all this I notice a subtle "distortion" of the bible, and at times not so subtle. There's an old idea, precept upon precept. What I learn should build on what I already know.

For example I know from Koine Greek logos indeed means word, not love. In the Greek there are 3 terms for love. I've noticed this same teaching style in someone else's exegesis. Keeps the teacher in a job.

I can't manage to read the site where this 'illumination' eminated from a second time. The whole context was more enlightening. I did snag this quote from either that author or a fellow traveler:

Never take what another says to you as the truth. Your purpose here is to find your own truth. You must use your own discernment at all times.

I might quibble for some time with this 'illuminated' understanding but to what end?

I think the source of this wisdom is from a seed God planted on earth, " and I saw Lucifer descend from heaven like a bolt of lightening. "

I also think it ties into George Bush Sr's declaration of a new world order and the mark of the beast.

Lucifer the Light-Bringer. How is it possible for a Light entity to be so bad (like the garden squirrel)? Let's see: Fire, laser and ultraviolet possess light. Improperly used, can cause serious injury. Light is but a tool then. Lucifer the Tool (and Wagner the Wabbit) ;)

I "light" this:
Never take what another says to you as the truth. Your purpose here is to find your own truth. You must use your own discernment at all times.

[mryy]

My previous thoughts:

I appreciate all the comments yet especially yours Fletcher. I intend to name this
prime mover The Fletcher. It doesn't disprove N3, yet it does nullify it. That's
the first case, a mechanical answer to N3.

• The Fletcher: A mechanical contrivance that catches and stores RKE using
  some of that energy to negate the counter torque produced to collect it. This
  mechanism will sense the appropriate time and place to send that energy then
  create an arrow (hence The Fletcher) and strike the proper point at the precise time.

The second case is the death knell for N3. Calling Newton a liar maybe was a bit harsh.
He just wasn't telling the truth. :)

• Walter's First Law of Motion: For some actions there exists a reaction that is
  neither opposite nor equal. This absolutely is a function of time and space.

Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:27 pm

Instead of Rocky, the flying squirrel, I used some unusual mechanics.

Lucifer the Tool, Wagner the Wabbit. and Rocky the (flying) Squirrel. The Trinity (N3 ?)...

P.S. Haven't seen Rocky in my backyard lately.

[Leafy]

So there are two Lucifers.

One is a good Lucifer and one is a bad Lucifer and it sounds like a minority worship the good Lucifer and majority worship the bad Lucifer…

[Sam Peppiatt]

Bessler wheel,
Now, I'm beginning to see, why it's taken 300 years to figure out how to make a wheel-------------------------------------------sam