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You're gonna love this. This is my normal state. This is a super saiyan. This is what it's like to move past a super saiyan. What's he doing? This is to go even further beyond!!!!! AAAAAAA! I'm a perpetual motion machine.
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Two gears are connected by 4:1 gear ratio. The smaller wheel is half the size of the larger wheel. They drop weights simultaneously off of their axis. Two weights drop at the same time. The two weights are diverted up the smaller gear to load on a ramp to the two gears. Did I make any mistakes? There are four times as many weights suspended from the larger gear. So I think I doubled my leverage. Weights are suspended from wheels and the two wheels are connected by 4:1 gear ratio.

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I doubled the gear ratio to 8:1 because 4:1 was perfectly balanced. I doubled the weight on the suspended rope without increasing the number of weights on the ascending side. Did I make a mistake?
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Now it should be double force. 2x force boys. Free gravity energy. Not that I haven't been fooled before.
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With some modifications I think I found something special. I had designed some multiple gear variations with suspended weights a long time ago but I didn't share it because I wasn't sure if I calculated the numerous gears correctly. But this is definitely a runner.

This is hard to describe right now. I didn't sleep last night and Mom got angry at me. I'm thinking a little slow right now.

It's the same as the previous drawings but I added parallel larger wheels and it caused the rotation to flip in the opposite direction as I intended.
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It doesn't matter what gear ratio you use, it will always be "balanced".

This reminds me of Murilos Avalanche drive. There are many similarities, but also differences. You are multiplying you gear ratio, which was pretty much what he was doing. When you multiply it, you also multiply the amount of balls that have to be on the slow side. He never understoood this and got stuck on his one design for years.
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I don't know man. Let me mull over this for a moment and I will get back with you. Murilo's Avalanche drive definitely does not work.
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According to my calculations this is over unity. It takes 1:4 gear ratio to make the two wheels dispense string at the same speed. But it takes 16:1 gear ratio to make the two wheels dispense string where the larger wheel moves 2x slower. I think that my last attempt at this concept fell in the face of that it was a 2:1 difference between the two wheel sizes and it took 2x the gear ratio to double its speed. With a 4:1 gear ratio or anything more than 2:1 gear ratio you have an imbalance in the amount you need to multiply by to double its speed and the difference between the wheel sizes. The difference between the wheel sizes determines how fast the string falls. If you cut the wheel into sections it will still be proportionally 4 times longer if the wheel is 4x larger. So in order to double its speed you need to cut it in half twice.
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I've spent some time carelessly or carefully perhaps miscalculating gears. I don't remember how my time machine worked. If I find clues to it that would be distressing because I'm trying to invent a perpetual motion machine not give the world time travel. So here is where my mind led me this evening. I connected two devices together to make the same amount of string fall and rise. But one thing, there is one small gear rising or falling and one larger gear rising or falling the string. If one gear is larger and both devices are identical but flipped, doesn't that mean that I have a 4 to 1 lever that is dispensing string at a 1:1 ratio? I thought that I made a special pulley as Archimedes that did something similar.
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This picture should be an 8 to 1 lever that dispenses 1:1 string.
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When I started this particular gear playing I was finding an avalanche drive like Murilo's Avalanche drive. It was increasing the numbers of weights by increasing the gear ratio but it was 1:1 distributing weights up and down. In this gear arrangement I've found a way to in crease the amount of Gear instead of the amount of weights and instead of 1:1 distribution of weights up and down, it's 1:1 distribution of string. So as long as I double the difference between the wheels size and keep the gear ratio between them 2:1 I will evenly increase how much the 1:1 string produces by double the amount. I started with 4:1 and it went to 8:1 and it should go to 16:1 if I were to halve the size of the small wheel again. If you are wondering how to know that his is happening, normally you would divide by the gear ratio difference but if the circumference of the gear is being driven it's reversed on order of how it's written down, you would flip the division. So in this drawing the small left gear has a gear power of 4 and the large gear that it is connected to on the right along its circumference is 8. Instead of multiplying by 8 you do 8/4=2. Then the next gear ratio would halve it down to 1:1 string distribution. It should do this based on how big the gears are and not the 1:2 ratio that connections each left or right device together. The second large gear to the right has to be size 8 if the size of the left gear is size 8, if it's larger it will slow down the ratio and if it's smaller it will speed up the ratio. To get 1:1 string it has to be like I drew it. I know that I've been misleading for a while miscalculating gears but I always had this result in mind. I saw the ends before I found the means. My clue for this was that there was a change in characteristics without having a change in other characteristics when I was playing with gear ideas. The example is the avalanche drive phenomena where you get more weights suspended despite doubling the gear ratio. I knew that in my mind that I could find a way to increase the leverage in the same way by playing with the gears. Unlike Murlio who knew this meant something and stuck to the idea, I actually had discernment into why it would doing it by making these gear arrangements and manipulating the gear arrangements until I found a way to increase the amount of gear rather than the amount of weight suspended. I suppose that this might have an actual effect on forces in the Universe. It's free but it might not be entirely free. It might even be beneficial. The Universe is expanding. Using this form of leverage might draw it back together or create dark matter. Not that I believe in dark matter. There are invisible forces at work here. I might be having some kind of effect if it's used. However because it's a leverage trick I'm not convinced that gravity even needs to be used to harness it, obviously
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