WORK THAT IS not being done

[SeaWasp]

James... Some clarification regarding some of your statements... Have you successfully built a working PM wheel? I can see your building one, but you have made some bold claims like, "OH YES by the way, IT WORKS!"
And you have so generously offered, "If some one deems it appropriate I will send my pics." - Please DO! I deem it very appropriate! Now since your machine has been already Patented... You have nothing to lose by enlightening us all with your success! You have said that, "I will send some real pictures and an assurance that it does work. BY UNIMPEachable people." Where are they? I ask you these things because now you say, "Gentlemen; In these posts, I have told you and shown you exactly how my machine works.you even have a patent and drawings... I can do no more! jim kelly" Jim.. No you havn't said anything about how your machine works. Only that, "the unit I am building at this time has eight 15 pound weights. what must occur is to keep the acceleration of the lift ramps proper. Just as I did when I ground cams for my race cars. Lift and timiming are important, but the rate of lift is also of great importance. then with another addition you can make the weight on the lift side zero. jim kelly" - These are very vague statements of your concept? We're still waiting on those pics and assurances BY UNIMPEachable people!

[james kelly]

Do you not have a drawing? Have you not been told of the configuration? have you not been told of the weight amounts? have you not been told of the lift rates? what do you want me to do, build it for you?Yes, I can supply all you ask, but why? you know all their is to know!

[Paul]

hi, thanks james kelly for showing to the forum that actually also you do not have any working prototype. This drawing taken so as one sees cannot work.
Paul

[SeaWasp]

James...
"Do you not have a drawing?" - Yes. This design does not work.
"Have you not been told of the configuration? - Uh.. Basic diagram of the Patent. and this, ""the unit I am building at this time has eight 15 pound weights. - Ok. That's a big hurdle that most of us have overcome by now.. "what must occur is to keep the acceleration of the lift ramps proper. " - So the gradient of the ramp must keep a constant force on the ascending weight? - Well I don't really see how that will overcome the leverage problem as I have mentioned earlier. "Just as I did when I ground cams for my race cars." Ofcourse valve bouncing is a big no-no.. But to gain maximum power you need very steep lobe profiles (as with roller cams) which would have a very large acceleration componant on your valves. Lift and timiming are important, but the rate of lift is also of great importance. " - Uh yes.. I can see how that would influence the design. It would have to be a calculated & balanced mechanism which takes into account all factors within the wheel. Weight, leverage, friction, etc. "then with another addition you can make the weight on the lift side zero. Aahh.. This is the bit everyone is keen to learn about! And how exactly have you achieved this? For it is only with this bit of information that can truly get the wheel to work! So no James.. We don't know all there is to know!

[james kelly]

PAUL;If you say so...........................................

[Fletcher]

If you remember back to Ralph's photo that he was 'allowed' to publish you will have worked out from that what James's concept was. Static eccentric guide that weights must follow. Trouble was even with the 'one addition' to make the ascending side have zero weight Ralph could not get it to work. Ralph also said it was a commonly tried idea.

Apparently it needed further fine tuning re internal friction, better bearings etc, *** strange*** which could easily be overcome by zero weight on the ascending side from the 'one addition'.

Conclusions: James hasn't shown or described to Ralph the 'one addition' to get it to work. James likes playing games.

[ovyyus]

James, I think you'll find most are receptive to a solution - that's why we're here!

Rather than bashing people over the head with their views, why not clarify your design? I don't understand your inefficient approach.

[ken_behrendt]

James may have good reasons for not revealing his method of overcoming counter torques in his Hurford-like design. Perhaps since no one else has discovered this method, he intends to patent it and, at that time, we will finally see exactly what the design is that allowed him to construct working gravity machines in the past.

I think much of what one thinks of James really comes down to whether or not one believes that he was successful in the past in building such a device. So far, I have no reason to doubt him and admit that I am still curious as to how he could have accomplished what he claimed to accomplish.

I think that he would like to reveal all to everyone's satisfaction, but, really, what's in it for him right now if he is in the process of seeking a patent on the design?


ken

[SeaWasp]

Ken... I can understand where you are coming from, but all James has to do is tell us that! All he has to say is, "guys, I have worked it out, I am in the process of getting a patent"... Then we would understand. But James has basically given us the run around. Even told us that his design had been patented already. He has offered pictures and testimony from unimpeachable sources! He has stated that we have all been given the information that he has offered us.. He hasn't. He doesn't respond to my questions for clarification. I am sure we are all eager to learn if he has cracked it. But not by him dangling a carrot in front of our faces..

[Wheeler]

Hello James

I can supply all you ask,

Yes but why you ask.

Because we do not understand everything, you seem to want to tell us, but do not.
Have you ever written anything and had it publicized?
Back when you were in your prime of discovery.
If you want to make sure people on the forum stay home when you patent, I think you are succeeding.
Using typo errors is not too convincing.
Can you change anything in this drawing to show where I am wrong?

[jimmyjj]

Hi James and all

I didnt have much time but here is a different version for what its worth.

[jimmyjj]

Say James those rollers arent magnets by any chance?

Jimmyjj

[james kelly]

YES THEY ARE!

[Michael]

Makes sense since it has been reported that there would be a problem getting the parts through the airport.

[Paul]

HI, sorry Mr. James Kelly I do you my apologies.
if your machine uses gravity together with the magnetism probably it really work !
I am convinced that with the gravity force united to a magnetic system obtaining the perpetual motion is possible.

Also I believe to have found a solution to obtain perpetual motion only with the magnetic force. I have put my idea here:
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... 9318#19318


Paul