Global Energy Prize

[Tarsier79]

It looks suspiciously like it is powered, probably via the "spring".

[WaltzCee]

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• I've become his first follower on twitter. Why not join me to encourage him in reaching out.

this is a good point. I would like to know as much as I could, so I can defend it if challenged.

A new thread would be great. It would help the good doctor's SEO, I suppose.

ETA
All in favor of a new thread say eye
Those opposed, sit down and shut up

[Dr.Wlazlak]

The Dominant flywheel is POWERED by

----------- A FINGER ---------------------

As seen on TV

If something takes a finger to start it the power comes from the finger

Everything else is magic of the Video maker As seen ( not in Person )

But very fun stuff: to see a magic trick on A VIDEO ( again not in person )

Unless YOU are in the Room with a device Do not Confuse A Video with real life

Like I always Say " You can make a dead man dance on the internet Video's "

But Why do people get this confused with something real?, Because if is much funn ers than Not

That's all to say about that.

Self starting on it's own power, if it does not do that - It's Bunk.

TAJ. Wlazlak

[agor95]

The Dominant flywheel is POWERED by

----------- A FINGER ---------------------

I have no objections to a device being initiated with a finger; even two fingers.

The point is the device keeps running against energy lost greater than the finger energy input.

Regards

[gravitationallychallenged]

agor95- I think what Dr. is saying is that the creator of the video started the flywheel rolling with his finger and then used trick photography to make it appear to keep running throughout the video. Perhaps he's correct. The force of the weighted spring against the crankshaft would create power robbing friction. The amount of force required to force the spring to bend and the weight to fly up would be equal to the amount of the force of gravity pulling down. You don't get any more energy out of a spring than you put into it. If you could lift the weight with less energy than the force of gravity it would most likely work.

Bessler said unless you can lift a heavier weight with a lighter weight all of your work will be in vain.

[Senax]

You don't get any more energy out of a spring than you put into it.

True.

But a spring can store precession energy (3rd derivative energy) on the downward stroke of a pendulum and release it on the upward stroke. This is how a Kiiking rider gets himself to go over the top. In his case the spring is the muscles in his legs and arms.

Collins realised the importance of understanding how the rider manged to get over the top before I did.

[Senax]

It looks suspiciously like it is powered, probably via the "spring".

Not by the spring but with the assistance of the spring which moves precession energy from the downstroke to the upstroke. So full marks for recognising the significance of the spring.

For someone with you obvious engineering ability, Tarsier, it should be a doddle to build an continuously revolving KiiKer. The spring is loaded and locked on the downside at around 4.30 and fired at around 10.30. A well designed locking and triggering mechanism will use minimum energy.

This is reminiscent of the way a IC engine works in that ignition is initiated just prior to TDC.

[Dr.Wlazlak]

Maybe this guy that made this video should join the Global Energy Prize Group?

Or for that matter. Just make a video of a working device of a glass of water with a hole at the bottom that never goes down in volume

That internet video would win for sure. Wow There are so many of these working internet video's everyone should win

But only enter the video's that are so Apparent fakes that even a child could not see the truth about them being fakes.


DrW

[agor95]

agor95- I think what Dr. is saying is that the creator of the video started the flywheel rolling with his finger and then used trick photography to make it appear to keep running throughout the video. Perhaps he's correct. The force of the weighted spring against the crankshaft would create power robbing friction. The amount of force required to force the spring to bend and the weight to fly up would be equal to the amount of the force of gravity pulling down. You don't get any more energy out of a spring than you put into it. If you could lift the weight with less energy than the force of gravity it would most likely work.

Bessler said unless you can lift a heavier weight with a lighter weight all of your work will be in vain.

All you say is possible. However Dr.Wlazla [Who] should be able to express what was in his mind;
When he comes back to Earth. That is good Stuff [Things].

There is friction and the first section the wheel is slowing down as the flywheel is doing work.

The rebound kick does work speeding the flywheel up. This is another energy loss adding to the frictional losses.

The originator is inferring the need for others to create their own 'Dominant Flywheel',

That will help address video editing.

After tuning the flywheel is rotating with motion blur and less variation in speed.

So we can deduce the spring weight is resonating. Therefore the spring is going down at the same time the flywheel cam arrives.

Only a small amount of energy is required to drive the spring/weight component vibration.

But energy is taken. Saying that it is a glancing push at 90 degrees to the spring with the cam
being near to radial compression. Thus with less cam back torque.

However the rebound kick is pushing the cam at a better angle and with a better leverage position on the spring.

The spring angle at first contact and second are different.

The end of this analysis is I assume nobody has built another example in 3 years.

p.s. Driven devices like this can store a lot of energy and it's using the resonance as a governor.

Regards

[Senax]

Maybe this guy that made this video should join the Global Energy Prize Group?

If it works in the way I suggested then he certainly should.

[Senax]

agor95- I think what Dr. is saying is that the creator of the video started the flywheel rolling with his finger and then used trick photography to make it appear to keep running throughout the video. Perhaps he's correct. The force of the weighted spring against the crankshaft would create power robbing friction. The amount of force required to force the spring to bend and the weight to fly up would be equal to the amount of the force of gravity pulling down. You don't get any more energy out of a spring than you put into it. If you could lift the weight with less energy than the force of gravity it would most likely work.

Bessler said unless you can lift a heavier weight with a lighter weight all of your work will be in vain.

All you say is possible. However Dr.Wlazla [Who] should be able to express what was in his mind;
When he comes back to Earth. That is good Stuff [Things].

There is friction and the first section the wheel is slowing down as the flywheel is doing work.

The rebound kick does work speeding the flywheel up. This is another energy loss adding to the frictional losses.

The originator is inferring the need for others to create their own 'Dominant Flywheel',

That will help address video editing.

After tuning the flywheel is rotating with motion blur and less variation in speed.

So we can deduce the spring weight is resonating. Therefore the spring is going down at the same time the flywheel cam arrives.

Only a small amount of energy is required to drive the spring/weight component vibration.

But energy is taken. Saying that it is a glancing push at 90 degrees to the spring with the cam
being near to radial compression. Thus with less cam back torque.

However the rebound kick is pushing the cam at a better angle and with a better leverage position on the spring.

The spring angle at first contact and second are different.

The end of this analysis is I assume nobody has built another example in 3 years.

Regards

You're not just a pretty face, are you Agore. ;o)

[Tarsier79]

Sorry, I meant powered with electricity. I suspect the electricity is switched on and off to a coil via the spring contact. There is probably a battery hidden in the base. It isn't a camera trick.

[agor95]

But a spring can store procession energy (3rd derivative energy) on the downward stroke of a pendulum and release it on the upward stroke.

[Tarsier79]

But a spring can store precession energy (3rd derivative energy) on the downward stroke of a pendulum and release it on the upward stroke. This is how a Kiiking rider gets himself to go over the top. In his case the spring is the muscles in his legs and arms.

A load of BS.We don't need imaginary energy to power someone on a swing. A person on a swing, or kiiking lifts their COM (PE) by shifting their body weight. Gravity adds velocity to the rider, trying to push him downwards, then the rider lifts himself again.

[johannesbender]

Yeah I say its fake (i would have to be a monkeys uncle to believe that video), its most likely electric , and the spring is just an adjustable brake to make it look less constant and look adjustable , like how the individual or whoever asks the guy to explain the spring before the guy starts adjusting the spring (turn up your volume to hear him)..