Introducing ??theTwo$$: A Breakthrough Concept?

[mryy]

Introducing ??theTwo$$: A Breakthrough Concept?

Uploaded is ??theTwo$$, a bi-directional wheel concept. Please note that what is being offered is again conceptual in nature and therefore subject to change. This version consists of 6 lever systems, 12 heavy yellow launching weights, and 3 light red flying weights. A lever system is a pair of mirror-imaged levers with their corresponding mirror-imaged blue guides. It is designed to turn the wheel in either direction. Notice how the Bessler logo visually resembles the lever system! The top of a blue guide has a pocket to store the yellow weight of a soon-to-be inactive lever when the wheel changes direction. At the bottom of the guide is another pocket to hold that weight temporarily during the change before it returns to the top pocket.

To have the wheel spin in one direction, one needs to push start by hand in the opposite direction so that the *topmost* red weight (sitting in the hook of a lever's catch arm) is about 11:00 (for a clockwise spin) or 1:00 (for counter-clockwise). During the push start the bottommost red weight will hop over from one lever to the adjacent one. Release and the wheel's mechanism (via gravity) does the rest.

I believe the bi-directional wheel is the inspiration of a passage in Apologia Poetica, Chapter LXVI. The imagery conjured in Bessler's mind upon viewing the moving wheel was set into metaphors. ??theTwo$$ fits those metaphors BEAUTIFULLY. Here are some examples:

1. Lever - cat, dog, flail, shotgun, runner [resembles swinging leg]
2. Lever system (lever pair and their guides) - bow, driver [resembles a 2-wheel drawn carriage], seer [red weights sitting on lever pair resemble eyes]
3. Yellow weights - horses, mice
4. Red weights - acrobats, shadow-boxers [resemble throwing fists]
5. Entire wheel interior - peacock tail

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P.S. A lever's projectile power can possibly be increased by loading its sub-compartment with multiple yellow weights. Let's say 2 weights per lever. So a wheel with 12 levers can have 24 yellow weights. An eyewitness said the weights of one Bessler wheel could fill a considerable box.

[agor95]

Have you progressed the concept?

[WaltzCee]

Have you progressed the concept?

[neuberlintourist1]

are these 3 Levers?

[agor95]

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[agor95]

are these 3 Levers?

There are three posts [blue] coming from the back disc [green].

The main bars are in effect pendulums.

The concept is the left bar drops onto the middle one and push it to the right.

So the center of gravity moves to the right.

Then the disc rotates. Hopefully until the next left bar drops.

This unit should be combined with two others to make a three out of phase device.

Is anyone interested in seeing the progressing of this concept?

[Update]

The [blue] bar hangs vertically down. The [orange] bar is dropping onto the [blue] bar to move it out of the way. Both [orange] & [blue] COM is moving away from our view point.

The [yellow] bar is lifting up. It's COM is more on the outside than the other two.

This was inspired by Scott F Hall

Regards

[mryy]

Have you progressed the concept?

No I haven't revisited this 2-way, an early concept. Been focusing on the 1-way in my other topic. Looking at this 2-way version, it lacks that strong lever-rim interaction, what I now believe is necessary for a runner to perform work. The hoop and stick principle in other words ...

That said, I don't think a 2-way has any meaningful benefit over a 1-way in real-world applications. Recreating the 2-way would probably be more of a curiosity to enlighten us to other methods that B. used. Recall that he built it to disprove accusations of fraud of his 1-way. Some thought he installed clock springs which can only be wound up in one direction.

[agor95]

Hi mryy

I think it is wise to focus on the 1-way concept first.

Your concept shown is way beyond my ability to model or simulate.

Good Luck

[neuberlintourist1]

are these 3 Levers?

There are three posts [blue] coming from the back disc [green].

The main bars are in effect pendulums.

The concept is the left bar drops onto the middle one and push it to the right.

So the center of gravity moves to the right.

Then the disc rotates. Hopefully until the next left bar drops.

This unit should be combined with two others to make a three out of phase device.

Is anyone interested in seeing the progressing of this concept?

Regards

Yes please show

[agor95]

Yes please show

I have just updated my previous post showing the three levers from a different view point.

The software to illustrate the concept was POV [Persistence of vision].

I have progressed and use other products to illustrate, simulate and verify.

Naturally builders out there are more that welcome to progress a physical model.

Regards

[Fletcher]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR-1QiL2sMs

Classic OOB wheel - love the way the rods tip over at 12 o'cl and swing quickly transferring their force on impact with the stop.

Maybe if vproject tilted the table.

[agor95]

Hi Fletcher

Well with a little tuning we could have a three cord xylophone.

I have been thinking on a simplified version of the Scott F Hall device.

But with pegs causing the interaction between the rods as per my additional concept.

So the bar that is dropping is pushing on the bar that is hanging.

I was only looking at this as a 1 way concept.

Also expected a three device composite product.

P.S. The deceleration is not a good indicator.

Regards

[agor95]

Look at the image carefully.

Could be link the bars so their CoM was along the central axis of the wheels?

The right bar is being lifted up and is going towards the hanging phase.

The left bar was the last bar to drop. It needs to be next to the bar above.

These bars act like a S.B. section.

If the bars were locking with the CoM along the axis then we have a flywheel.

With a little slack we have a movement of the bars CoM away from the wheel center axis.

Regards

[Fletcher]

It raises a good point Agor .. we don't see many PM wheel attempts that roll across a surface.

It is one of the things I found strange about B's. wheels - he could have put them on the back of a cart or boat (geared or belt driven etc) and had the first self propelled vehicle (no carrying fuel or stoking required). He would have taken the world by absolute storm and been a celebrity and made a fortune. From small seeds grow great trees. Imagine the kudos for Karl. OK .. Newcomen had demonstrated successfully his first commercial steam/heat engine for pumping mines a few months before B's. Gera wheel in 1712. But that took labour and fuel and wasn't transitioned into trains (made mobile) etc until some many years later. They obviously were thinking about it from the get-go.

B. didn't do it because ..... it had to be anchored to solid earth is my conclusion with I think high probability. And if it couldn't roll across the earth then its 'fuel supply / energy source' came from it being anchored to solid earth thru a mechanical interaction.


So back to the Scott Hall device .. when I saw it years ago I imagined it on an axle and not free rolling on the rims. I couldn't see any difference if it were. It could be simmed either way and compared, including any changes you think have potential, imo.

[eccentrically1]

B. didn't do it because ..... it had to be anchored to solid earth is my conclusion with I think high probability. And if it couldn't roll across the earth then its 'fuel supply / energy source' came from it being anchored to solid earth.

I don't know about that. What happened to your argument that he wanted to lay claim to solving the classic PM puzzle i.e. an OB wheel (paraphrased)?
I think it was more of a power issue that he didn't display it that way. Talk about friction, a wooden wheel rolling across the lawn. For all we know he tried it. If it showed a poor result for that reason or another, he went back to Plan A.