Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel

[Sam Peppiatt]

The Ring and Rollers are a here to fore unknown spices of machinery and are difficult to relate to. I'm assured by one and all that they will fail. Simply, another dead duck.

Regardless, the work continues. Finished the base plate, the four spokes, the four drums and the flats. Onward to the rollers. They are bronze and, should be about 20 pounds each-------------------------Sam

[Tarsier79]

Why didn't you go smaller and just use some large marbles, ball bearing etc?

[Sam Peppiatt]

Tarsier,
You mean some thing real small; miniature? I have a hard time making real tiny parts. Too big isn't easy either. The wheel will be 30 inches in diameter. It's a comfortable size for me.

To make a prototype, you just go through the bone pile and use what ever you have that you can make it out of. Part of the problem with this wheel; you have to have a minimum of two of every thing to keep it balanced. I had the two brake drums from my old truck and, two identical fly wheels for the rollers. So, that's what I started with.

A toy would reduce the cost but then, every one would just say it works but as a toy it is still useless. For it to do much work the rollers have to be quite large in diameter to increase the radius, to give the wheel more leverage.

Oh wait a minute, I see. Why 20 lbs? For the same reason(s). The new brake drums are bigger, a mistake of on line ordering. I have these two old bronze pistons, that I'll saw in half, to give me the four rollers that I need.

I'll admit I don't know what I'm doing but, at the same time I don't see how marbles will work---------------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

Tarsier,
To follow up on your question. If you used a one inch diameter ball, the ring could be 1 and 1/4 inch diameter. And the wheel maybe 4 inches in diameter. The max. shift would be 1/4 inch. I don't know how much the ball would weight, say 4 oz. So, shifting a 4 oz. ball 1/4 inch wouldn't put the wheel OOB very much.

I guess it could be done but, I think it's beyond of my capability's. Even if I could do it; it would be viewed as worthless----------------------Sam

[WaltzCee]

I guess it could be done but, I think it's beyond of my capability's. Even if I could do it; it would be viewed as worthless----------------------Sam

Viewed as worthless by whom, Sam?

The way I see this market is once someone gets a machine that works, the fun begins.

• Putting it out in the world is a piece of cake.

• Getting paid for the idea is going to be as much work as solving the problem.

We can thank the parade of frauds that have come before us for the difficulty in getting paid.

However a working wheel is going to fundamentally change physics. You can believe that's not worthless.

Now stop talking that bunk! Don't make me have to reach thru this screen and throttle you!

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi Waltcy,
I'd best straighten up and fly right; this is my last warning!! You ask who? Well Fletcher of coarse, who else? He questions every thing I do.

I don't know; I'm not sure, I haven't convinced anyone yet and, it may only get worse. One good thing; about it, I don't have to have anything for it. No Waltcy, it won't change physics one bit------------------------Sam

PS Back to sawing bronze----------------

[WaltzCee]

One needs to have a working wheel first, Sam.

The physicist says that is impossible.

They'll have a lot of splainin' to do. Watching that circus would almost be worth giving it away for free.

ETA
Fletcher isn't the sort to blow smoke up your you know what. You're going to get an honest opinion.

A very valuable honest opinion.

[Sam Peppiatt]

waltcy,
I don't think there is a whole lot wrong with physics. But, sure some change to there bull shit would have to happen. Right. A working wheel and, them I'm done with it. If only I could get him off my back. What the fuck did I ever do----------------Sam

[MrTim]

One needs to have a working wheel first, Sam.

The physicist says that is impossible.

They'll have a lot of splainin' to do. Watching that circus would almost be worth giving it away for free.

They'll huff & puff and sputter, but they'll hide behind the definition (that they came up with) that it's impossible. But they'll have to grudgingly accept it, once it's spinning in front of their faces. Heck, it may even initiate breakthroughs in understanding gravity (but don't expect a thank you from them... ;-)

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi "Mr." Tim,
It would be nice for a change; to have the shoe on the other foot, so to speak. It might happen---------------Sam

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[Sam Peppiatt]

Update,
Have the 4 rollers sawed off. 23 lbs. ea., diameter 7 1/2 inches. Just have to turn them on the lath; I.E., machine off a little bit so that they are all the same thickness and the same weight. They are about 2 1/4 inches thick. Also the wheel and the drums are together; 74 lbs.----------------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

I think agor is right. I should leave with no warning, no words of farewell----------------------------

[phj]

I think agor is right. I should leave with no warning, no words of farewell----------------------------

I don't want you to leave, Sam. You're actually building things while I spend most of my 'Bessler time' calculating and creating simulations. You've been a great inspiration to me over the years.

[agor95]

Hi phj

With your use of Algodoo do you think it's possible to have three pendulums limited by two side strings?

In a 2d simulation the pendulums should not interact.

P.S. My head is full of other software; one could say BS [Bessler Stuff].

Regards

[phj]

Hi phj

With your use of Algodoo do you think it's possible to have three pendulums limited by two side strings?

In a 2d simulation the pendulums should not interact.

Regards

Could you please clarify a bit further? Perhaps you could provide a sketch to help illustrate your point.