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Claculating Torque
This depends on if people learned math. The unit circle allows for basic algebra. After that there's trigonometry,
analytical trig, etc. You have 4 quadrants, how to shift the balance? Even with considering Bessler' Wheel, how to
show conservation of energy/momentum within a given system?
How would you do it? How would you express work (m * d = w) or momentum (f = ma) and with energy ( KE = 1/2mv^2)?
How would you define function? Is 8^-1 actually 1/8? With the unit circle it becomes possible just to add or subtract one
side from the other while using cos (cosine) or sin (sine) values. Just super easy and who can't do "Super Easy", right?
And what I have to work with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L23vq-e6k1k I don't have a shop like respected
people in this forum have. And am curious, who else builds? I know thx4 does but English speakers. Attack thx4? No?
Then why attack me? If he is not attacked like me then it is because I am 1/2 Norwegian and live in the U.S. Please
prove me wrong and attack his work.
analytical trig, etc. You have 4 quadrants, how to shift the balance? Even with considering Bessler' Wheel, how to
show conservation of energy/momentum within a given system?
How would you do it? How would you express work (m * d = w) or momentum (f = ma) and with energy ( KE = 1/2mv^2)?
How would you define function? Is 8^-1 actually 1/8? With the unit circle it becomes possible just to add or subtract one
side from the other while using cos (cosine) or sin (sine) values. Just super easy and who can't do "Super Easy", right?
And what I have to work with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L23vq-e6k1k I don't have a shop like respected
people in this forum have. And am curious, who else builds? I know thx4 does but English speakers. Attack thx4? No?
Then why attack me? If he is not attacked like me then it is because I am 1/2 Norwegian and live in the U.S. Please
prove me wrong and attack his work.
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Nobody cares about your heritage. All anyone cares about is a working wheel. Just build one and show it working. You don't even have to reveal how it's done - just show one that is actually working without faking it.
If you can't build a working wheel and show it, then nobody really cares about you, your heritage, or whatever contrivance you come up with. In fact, quit arguing your points here, and just go build a working wheel. So far your videos show failures - which is okay - all builders go through that - but don't take your frustrations out on everyone here.
If you can't build a working wheel and show it, then nobody really cares about you, your heritage, or whatever contrivance you come up with. In fact, quit arguing your points here, and just go build a working wheel. So far your videos show failures - which is okay - all builders go through that - but don't take your frustrations out on everyone here.
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JUBAT wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:07 pm Nobody cares about your heritage. All anyone cares about is a working wheel. Just build one and show it working. You don't even have to reveal how it's done - just show one that is actually working without faking it.
If you can't build a working wheel and show it, then nobody really cares about you, your heritage, or whatever contrivance you come up with. In fact, quit arguing your points here, and just go build a working wheel. So far your videos show failures - which is okay - all builders go through that - but don't take your frustrations out on everyone here.
I'm not Bessler. Why are people in a perpetual motion forum when all they can say is show me proof?
Have you been attacked? No? Why? This is very personal. If you're not attacked, what am I doing wrong?
I think Bessler knew analytical trigonometry. Calculus is basically what comes next. If he was born in 1680,
Newton published his En Principia in 1687.
Why does everyone have a problem with math? Using Pi and the unit circle wheel is pretty basic. With a
perpetual wheel like Bessler built, it allows it to be understood. With me, I think I'll be able to have 1 German
and 1 Polish woodworker who can have assistants build it. Bessler was 1/2 Polish and 1/2 German. I am
1/2 Norwegian and 1/2 American.
And if we exclude ethnic purity, why does no one in here discuss math?
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The math to explain it's running is useless unless you have a working physical device, as anything theoretical cannot account for missing equations. That's just the way it is.
As for pedigrees, nobody cares; We're all mongrels to one degree or another... ;-)
As for pedigrees, nobody cares; We're all mongrels to one degree or another... ;-)
"....the mechanism is so simple that even a wheel may be too small to contain it...."
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And your kind will stop everything. This is the role that religion plays in modern society.
Does "God" allow for it? Saying mongrel is like saying dingo or laughing hyena. Australia/ Africa, same thing.
Both continents have their scavengers. And 5 years ago the last White African Rhino died.
It was God's will, right? Just like the last Tasmanian tiger that died about 1933 in captivity. What is possible?
We need to ask ourselves that one question. What is possible if we don't allow for it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBpyAOpzlEE
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This was him and he left 2 females. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-43468066
What simply wasn't allowed for.
What simply wasn't allowed for.
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You come onto this board with a major chip on your shoulder and the things you speak of - totally unsolicited I might add - points to mental illness and severe at that. My opinion is that unless you have a working wheel, you really shouldn't come here with your chronic negativity. Spend more time building a working wheel then come and talk to us all about that. Any of that other stuff we don't care about - really we don't. You are the only one who cares about the issues of which you speak.
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Discuss math then. Even science. I mention facts and nothing else. Johann Bessler built a workingJUBAT wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:23 am You come onto this board with a major chip on your shoulder and the things you speak of - totally unsolicited I might add - points to mental illness and severe at that. My opinion is that unless you have a working wheel, you really shouldn't come here with your chronic negativity. Spend more time building a working wheel then come and talk to us all about that. Any of that other stuff we don't care about - really we don't. You are the only one who cares about the issues of which you speak.
perpetual wheel in 1712. Calculus did not exist then. Both Newton and Leibniz started calculus at that
time. They both offered 2 different equations.
https://math.libretexts.org/Bookshelves ... et_Started
An FYI, it was openly posted that because I am not "pure", I will work for those who are pure. Why I've been banned.
It seems "pure" people don't know math or how to build. Anyone who is "pure" is welcome to prove me wrong. They
will need to show work and not pictures of their kids or grandchildren. Il est vrais. Je ne suis un Americain.
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For over 15 years both Walt Cee and Tarsier79 have said "it can't work". Never been banned for saying it can't work.JUBAT wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:23 am You come onto this board with a major chip on your shoulder and the things you speak of - totally unsolicited I might add - points to mental illness and severe at that. My opinion is that unless you have a working wheel, you really shouldn't come here with your chronic negativity. Spend more time building a working wheel then come and talk to us all about that. Any of that other stuff we don't care about - really we don't. You are the only one who cares about the issues of which you speak.
15 years of the same 3 words, it can't work. And today that translates into Amy can't walk. And in 15 years they can
say Amy Can't walk.
And if I am successful, she might try.
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No, I only said your design wont work. I believe Besslers did. Mine don't work so far yet either.
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An FYI, 2 posts I made in 2009 when I had cancer explained Bessler's wheel. I was told to shove that colorectal cancer
back up my ass where it came from. I was banned. I worked 4 - 10 hour days walking 10 - 12 miles a day in warehouse
with stage 3 colorectal cancer. And I was told to shove it back up my ass by a "real" American.
Why does he have a cannon on his shoulder for? I might have a chip on my shoulderb ut he has a cannon on his and is much loved for it.
He posted cancer is no excuse and was very well supported. Did my working with cancer offend someone who didn't have cancer? It did.
And does my working while 100% disabled bother people? It does. I have a chip on my shoulder. People who do not have cancer and
are not handicapped deserve room service.
Can you keep up with someone who is handicapped? Or is their disability an unfair advantage? My being 100% disabled gives me an
unfair advantage. And as thx4 said, having no family and being 100% disabled, I will build while having no shop to work in. He has a family
and no disabilities and yet won't do the build. Really?
He'll challenge someone with no family who is disabled to do what he can never do with his family? Why he has has a family.
back up my ass where it came from. I was banned. I worked 4 - 10 hour days walking 10 - 12 miles a day in warehouse
with stage 3 colorectal cancer. And I was told to shove it back up my ass by a "real" American.
Why does he have a cannon on his shoulder for? I might have a chip on my shoulderb ut he has a cannon on his and is much loved for it.
He posted cancer is no excuse and was very well supported. Did my working with cancer offend someone who didn't have cancer? It did.
And does my working while 100% disabled bother people? It does. I have a chip on my shoulder. People who do not have cancer and
are not handicapped deserve room service.
Can you keep up with someone who is handicapped? Or is their disability an unfair advantage? My being 100% disabled gives me an
unfair advantage. And as thx4 said, having no family and being 100% disabled, I will build while having no shop to work in. He has a family
and no disabilities and yet won't do the build. Really?
He'll challenge someone with no family who is disabled to do what he can never do with his family? Why he has has a family.
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thx4, I need major surgery so I build. To have surgery, I will have to leave the U.S.
My father ran from Nazis. I find it comparable if I want to live. When I had cancer in 2009,
my surgeon put my colon in wrong. How to avoid a malpractice suit? Just ignore it.
You're French, parents ever meet any Germans? Did you ever go hungry? Even my
cousins in Norway made me ware of it. If only Nazis could run faster there'd be one less
problem in the world today (that's me). The good news is they caught my father's friend. It is
important to do as you're told. Otherwise you might get banned. Yep, Germans loved
banning people. It was important to be obedient and to do what you were told. This forum is
that way.
On behalf of Adolph Hitler, I am sorry his men poorly performed their duties. Why I am here.
And Norway can be remembered for Narvik. It'd be easy to insult other larger countries that
never resisted but history has pretty much made that known.
My father ran from Nazis. I find it comparable if I want to live. When I had cancer in 2009,
my surgeon put my colon in wrong. How to avoid a malpractice suit? Just ignore it.
You're French, parents ever meet any Germans? Did you ever go hungry? Even my
cousins in Norway made me ware of it. If only Nazis could run faster there'd be one less
problem in the world today (that's me). The good news is they caught my father's friend. It is
important to do as you're told. Otherwise you might get banned. Yep, Germans loved
banning people. It was important to be obedient and to do what you were told. This forum is
that way.
On behalf of Adolph Hitler, I am sorry his men poorly performed their duties. Why I am here.
And Norway can be remembered for Narvik. It'd be easy to insult other larger countries that
never resisted but history has pretty much made that known.
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Whack a mole time!!!
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AB Hammer told me if everything wasn't about him he'd ruin it for everyone and he did.
Considering no one is able to calculate torque, that shows what ab hammer brought to the forum.
Math can't be discussed. This thread proves that. Yet how to know if an idea is any good? And as
some members have shown, in 15 years they have learned nothing about what might allow for
perpetual motion.
That is a lot of time spent criticizing people to please a "real" American. And if Bessler's Wheel
doesn't get built, that's because this forum wants it built for them just as ab hammer taught. You
guys are his "children". I think that's funny. He taught you how to waste years of your life believing
as he believes.
p.s., It will be funny when I make it known that ab hammer openly posted that because I am 1/2 Norwegian
that I have to be slave labor in this forum. And then he posted, guys, follow my lead and do as I do. Keep
attacking Jim until he builds for us. And orpheus.org allows this type of conduct.
In Bessler's Das Triumphirende Perpetuum Mobile Orffyreanum https://besslerwheel.com/writings/das_triumphans.html
he describes his working wheel but that wasn't allowed to be discussed. I realized it because working offline
I was not attacked for considering Bessler's own writing about his Triumphant perpetual wheel.
I mean how could Bessler have made it more obvious than saying This is my triumphant perpetual wheel?
If you consider Walt Cee has been a member since 2007, what has he learned in 16 years? Nothing. I think
people will find that odd about this forum because he is typical of what a good member is.
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I think you might be hiding something Da Ewe. It's okay if you're gay and you want more than just casual contact with the members you cited. In fact AB has wanted to rock your perpetual motion wheel for a long time but just didn't know how to go about it in a productive manner. Norway has sections of the country where they specialize in the casual flipping of each other's weights around. You might like to go try it out and feel yourself spin around in delight. Rumour has it that once your eyes roll back in your head far enough, youll not only see the bessler wheel in operation, but you'll see bessler himself giving you a wink, a nod, and a thumbs up with his tongue sticking out and his mouth wide open. If you're lucky he'll spurt out a formula or 2 for you to chomp on.