Poll related to: "Big Troubles Brewing For The Theoretical Physics Smart-set"

[daxwc]

Matthew 6:14-15 - "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

Ephesians 4:32 - "Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you."

I meant it Walt Have a Happy Father's Day.

[eccentrically1]

I’m enjoying the US ByGod Open, with a Glencairne glass of Blanton’s on Father’s Day. Life is good.

[WaltzCee]

pathetic

I doubt any would question your sense of pathetic, having spent a lifetime looking at that man in the mirror.

Are we to assume you are posting whilst seeing your reflection or is this one of those rare times you've had a salient thought?

This is a discussion board, after all.

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Riddle me this:

• What never stops yet never goes anywhere?

I can give you a hint

Meanwhile, I was asked to leave a local playground yesterday

[JUBAT]

You have quoted someone that said they were asked to leave a local playground.

That along with your riddle leads me to believe that perhaps a sex offender registry somewhere has the answer to it.

[WaltzCee]

Beats me, Jubat, I'm just trying to get some obvious trolls off my patootie.

My real question is this point:

• If the prior art of perpetual motion is embodied in nature with descriptions of it in the word of nature's God, is it not proper to give God the credit or Glory?

That's what informs the thoughts of my present build and I'm soliciting opinions.

[Fletcher]

• If the prior art of perpetual motion is embodied in nature with descriptions of it in the word of nature's God, is it not proper to give God the credit or Glory?

That's what informs the thoughts of my present build and I'm soliciting opinions.

I don't understand your question Walt .. some thoughts ..

Rephrasing so I understand it ..

If the art of perpetual motion (PM) can be mechanically proved and repeated, then it would be self evident that the principle of PM is contained within the Laws of Nature ! If descriptions of the said mechanical embodiment of PM can be found in the words of God, as transcribed by man, and the mechanical similarities (i.e. lack of novelty) between the two is obvious and accurate, is it not proper to give God the credit or glory ?

First .. not everyone believes in a, or the same, God .. less contentious common ground is Natures Laws

Second .. prior art = background art, lack of novelty

Third .. if the link between mechanical PM contained in the written words of God and a proven working device today can be established beyond reasonable doubt (to civil standard), then presuming the inventor had read said words of God and description, and it materially influenced his or her discovery, then he or she may well acknowledge and give credit and glory to the author of said established "prior art".

[Fletcher]

Walt .. if you should be thinking about the bible story of Ezekiel's wheel as that PM 'prior art' your conscious is wrestling with, then I don't think the bible story detail and any rendered pictures of a wheel would meet the legal definition of a defensible "prior art" imo .. should you be successful with your PM device then of course it is entirely up to you where you place the discovery 'credit and glory' ..

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-s ... story.html

• "Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels." Ezekiel 1:20-21

** In the same way that B. mentions the bible verses in AP .. just not enough detail for 'prior art' authority imo .. yes I know B. credited his epiphany to God's intervention .. that is his belief and right ..

Best of luck with your build, I really do hope you have something that can be real ..

[WaltzCee]

Walt .. if you should be thinking about the bible story of Ezekiel's wheel as that PM 'prior art' your conscious is wrestling with, then I don't think the bible story detail and any rendered pictures of a wheel would meet the legal definition of a defensible "prior art" imo ..
. .. .. .

Thank you very much for your perspective Fletcher. I don't try to flatter people so I hope you don't misunderstand me when I tell you your opinions/insights are invaluable.

If I didn't really mean it, I wouldn't say it.

I'd like to speak to your point here:

• If the art of perpetual motion (PM) can be mechanically proved and repeated, then it would be self evident that the principle of PM is contained within the Laws of Nature !

I don't mean this in the sense of molecular motors
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• Molecular dynamics simulation of a synthetic molecular motor composed of three molecules in a nanopore (outer diameter 6.7 nm) at 250 K.[4]

• https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MD ... 0K_1ns.gif

This is synthetic and the link takes you to an animation. I thought it was kind of neat, maybe not the best example.

Recently, my mind has been flooded with so many ideas, I can't hardly handle them. I need an upgrade, a quantum machine, yet I'm in my man cave with a 6800 microprocessor on a breadboard thinking

• 3E

This data dump is really hexing my decimal. I'm sure I'll get thru it, yet I'll manage it as I think I should.

I'm still truckin', but I might need a break

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Found it!



ETA2

to this point:

• If descriptions of the said mechanical embodiment of PM can be found in the words of God

The exact precise description of a PMM complete with engineering blueprints aren't in the Bible. There are, however, more significant clues there than anything one might read in all that Bessler wrote.

If Bessler ever wrote he was inspired by the bible, that would be a gigantic clue. I don't know if he ever dropped that breadcrumb.