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I'm always happy to help someone find a safe space where they can be less selectively offended by the words of others.
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ovyyus wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:03 pm I'm always happy to help someone find a safe space where they can be less selectively offended by the words of others.
James is just trying to tell the story of his life in his own language. If I've followed his plot line, he's in the process of correcting Newton & Einstein's math, he is the coming Messiah who will bring peace to the Earth, command the seas to lower their levels, raise the dead, etc.

Normal Messiah work.
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UbWe wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:45 pm
  • Remember when you posted that Alan would be evil if he sodomized me as a kid but today the church would approve of it?
No I don't. Could you directly quote me & provide a link?
  • Is this more "conditioning" because you're "grooming" me to not be a jerk

I don't think that's possible.
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WaltzCee wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:26 pm James is just trying to tell the story of his life in his own language. If I've followed his plot line, he's in the process of correcting Newton & Einstein's math, he is the coming Messiah who will bring peace to the Earth, command the seas to lower their levels, raise the dead, etc.

Normal Messiah work.
Oh I totally get the Jesus complex thing. We should be humbled in the presence of greatness - knowing that JL has discovered Newton's and Einstein's errors and decided to freely bequeath that information unto us.
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ovyyus wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:03 pm I'm always happy to help someone find a safe space where they can be less selectively offended by the words of others.

And when ab hammer created a fake alias and said only me and him, only me and him, you said it was okay for him to do that.
And when ab hammer identifies with a child molester, you're okay with that as well? And yet none of you guys have any work to
show but I am the problem. Why do I have to be pleasing to your friends when I build?
I think when I have Bessler's Wheel and you guys have each other it will show that you guys have a God complex. After all, none of
you discuss Bessler's work but make some really ignorant comments about me. Do you guys want to crucify me so you can show how
I suffered for you so you could have Bessler's Wheel without doing any work? It is disgusting when you guys attack me because none
of you want me to have surgery. That's called being abusive.
And what did Jubat say? None of my work matters, only my attitude towards him. Am I supposed to quit building so I can notice your
friend who feels rejected by me because I'm building so I can have surgery? That is what you are supporting oyvvus. My pleasing your
friend comes before my having a life. And you just explained why he's never been banned. I think the people in Saxony, Germany will
find it disturbing that Bessler was being used as a way to meet guys.

p.s., waltz, the U.S. is always at war. When will Americans get tired of being at war? Has the U.S. been involved in war every year this century?
Is that how a world leader leads the world? You know, with war? I served in the military while you war lovers didn't. As you say, they're dying
for you and your freedom. I mean both Iraq and Afghanistan were threats to the U.S., right? Then again, I'm the problem in here because I build and understand Bessler's clues while you guys support aggressive and with my having to have Jubat like my attitude towards him when I'm building,
I think people will find it strange when he is considered better than Bessler's wheel.
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Oh I totally get the Jesus complex thing. We should be humbled in the presence of greatness - knowing that JL has discovered Newton's and Einstein's errors and decided to freely bequeath that information unto us.
He sure checks a lot of boxes.
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WaltzCee wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:51 pm .
Oh I totally get the Jesus complex thing. We should be humbled in the presence of greatness - knowing that JL has discovered Newton's and Einstein's errors and decided to freely bequeath that information unto us.
He sure checks a lot of boxes.
What is it Jubat aka ab hammer aka Alan Bauldree told me? I will not be allowed to use being a disabled Veteran as a crutch to have a life in the U.S.
There's one slight problem with your God complex. Would you like me to say my father who art in Heaven whose kingdom is not here? After all, he was
from Norway but religious zealots will say "don't mention the part about him being an immigrant and JL is being exploited by "pure" Americans. I don't
think the church would like your using your abusive behavior to say that you made a messiah.
You'd basically be saying that Jesus wasn't the Son of God but was a victim of abusive and possibly sexually abusive people 2,000 years ago.
And to end wars, why would it take a messiah for the U.S. to stop pursuing war? You guys love war but do not like disabled Veterans. That's a God
complex.

p.s., Einstein signed an anti-war petition that was sent to the Kaiser in 1919.
Cavalier as he may have been about his wives, he had a deep moral sense. At the height of World War I, he risked the Kaiser's wrath by signing an antiwar petition, one of only four scientists in Germany to do so. https://content.time.com/time/magazine/ ... -3,00.html
Did Einstein who is Jewish have a messiah complex?
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JUBAT wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:28 pm . .. .. .

Oh I totally get the Jesus complex thing. We should be humbled in the presence of greatness - knowing that JL has discovered Newton's and Einstein's errors and decided to freely bequeath that information unto us.
By his own admission, James is wacked. Specifically,
Because of the hardships I have endured because of this, I eventually was ran over by a van going 50 mph. That accident left me with a traumatic brain injury. Basically tomorrow I won't be thinking of today, I'd get a bad headache if I try remembering.
So we have this wacked job in charge of the asylum. What could possibly go wrong?
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It's a tough choice between wack job and a couple of sadists looking after the asylum. I think we need to re-advertise the position.
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Is it sadistic to expect someone to be held accountable to their own words?

Of course we all have our opinions, yet I'm of the opinion management is sadistic to inflict this wacked job on the general population.

If this continues, fewer & fewer will post anything here. That is James's stated goal. BW is a ghost town as it is.

He's explained he's smarter than the PhD's at Cambridge. Corrects Einstien's math. Etcetera.
He lives in a fantasy world & insists everyone join him, where he is king. King James, Lord of Bessler Wheel. :) nice ring to it.

James is the ideal face for BW. I nominate James poster child of BW.
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I notice none of you guys have any work to show yet expect me to ask you guys if my work is good enough for you.
It must hurt that you guys have always attacked me and now I have Bessler's Wheel and you don't. I also think that actual
scientists will agree that I made a brilliant observation. And what will show that I actually know science is my experiment
that I'm pursuing. A successful experiment will allow me to discover a new process in atmospheric chemistry.
And if I am right then the U.N.'s IPCC will have to change its policy on climate change. Kind of why I need Bessler's Wheel.
It'll help to prove that gravity has energy. And then people will read what you guys post about me and they'll also know that
my work in here was always ridiculed.
And what people will see is that when I tried getting along with you guys and discussing Bessler's Wheel, it was the same toxic
treatment I've always received in here. After all, wallyboy has attacked my disability. That's what sadistic people do. That and
mocking someone who is disabled and is pursuing surgery.
And the reason I know atmospheric chemistry is because I spent several years learning it. What have you guys done? Learn how
to be even more toxic? It really bothers you guys that while I'm 100% disabled I didn't say pity me or I want you to like me when
I don't know anything about Bessler's Wheel. I mean ab hammer asking for sympathy because a gas line ruptured I think shows
the mentality of the forum leaders in here. After all, a ruptured gas line is serious. Just look at the problems it caused Alan.
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ovyyus wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:53 pm It's a tough choice between wack job and a couple of sadists looking after the asylum. I think we need to re-advertise the position.
Carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrous oxide (N2O), and methane (CH4) are each important to climate forcing and to the levels of stratospheric ozone (see Chapter 2). In terms of the globally averaged ozone column, additional N2O leads to lower ozone levels, whereas additional CO2 and CH4 lead to higher ozone levels. Ozone depletion to date would have been greater if not for the historical increases in CO2 and CH4. The net impact on ozone recovery and future levels of stratospheric ozone thus depends on the future abundances of these gases. For many of the scenarios used in the most recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Assessment (IPCC, 2013), global ozone will increase to above pre-1980 levels due to future trends in the gases.
https://csl.noaa.gov/assessments/ozone/ ... y/ch5.html

Am being serious here oyvvus, you don't understand what they're implying here? Next you'll tell me you don't understand why there's a tropopause and why its altitude changes. There's something called Occa's Razor;
The most useful statement of the principle for scientists is "When we have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions, the simpler one is the better".
https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ ... occam.html
I stayed with the application of different theories in physics. Modeling to verify observable interactions will require the use of calculus more
advanced than I know. And I'll be able to discuss Boltzmann's Ideal Gas Law and the Joules-Thomson throttling process. This gets into what the
IPCC missed. Then there's also Coulomb's law which states Opposite electric charges attract each other while like electric charges repel each other. This force of attraction and repulsion is called electric forces. Coulombs law states that force of attraction = coulomb's law constant x charge 1 x charge 2 / (distance between charges)^2.
Are you guys familiar with this aspect of science? If not then what would prevent me from learning about it? I happen to like science.

p.s., And Bessler is a fraud, right? Isn't that why you guys thought I was stupid? Why don't you guys just say the world would be a better place if I were dead? Can't you at least be honest about how you feel about me? Your posts are meant to make me hate myself because I'm not as good as you guys
and that's what happened with Bessler. You guys are the modern version of Wagner and his friends. I think people will find it laugh out loud funny
that a forum dedicated to realizing his wheel is so that orpheus.org and their friends can call people stupid for pursuing Bessler's work.
Of course in its own way this shows that orpheus.org did this as a joke that'll blow up in their faces.
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WaltzCee wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:19 am
If this continues, fewer & fewer will post anything here. That is James's stated goal. BW is a ghost town as it is.
It's a ghost town compared to what it once was Walt .. back in its hay day .. when the forum was new and everyone was fresh and full of ideas .. secrecy was the order of day of the next 'sure bet' - today we share a lot more ..

As time went by reality set in ..

And it boiled down to this - 2 camps ..

Camp1 .. Newtonian Physics is wrong and all we have to do is find the experiment that proves the major chink in the armour ..

Camp 2 .. Newtonian Physics is correct and somewhere there is a mechanical workaround that gives the wheels energy that is outputted as mechanical energy ..

And thru all those 2 decades or so a precession of claimants (stable or otherwise) have come and gone, with no working wheel to show for it ..

Will it peter out until the ghosts even leave ? I don't think so, until it is proven that either it can be done or that B. and Karl were frauds .. there will always be those of us who push the boundaries and dedicate ourselves to finding the answers ..
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With James continued harping about being attacked for being a disabled vet...let the record show that I have a close family member who works directly with disabled veterans in the medical sector. James is hellbent on accusing me of being AB Hammer which I am not, but one thing I won't sit idly by and accept is being accused of being against veterans...disabled or otherwise. I stand by my family relative who is a federal employee of the department of defense specifically the Veteran's Administration.

I will never use disabled veteran status as a reason to attack. Claiming you're about the solve the Bessler wheel and prove newton and einstein wrong....that's another story.

My dad has the same mental disability as James and truly there is nothing you can say. He lives in a world that none of us can see and where we try to use logic and reason in the world of face value...those words mean nothing as they go through the filter of our world into his. There is literally nothing you can say that will calm him down. In his mind, everyone is out to get him and the only people he will ever respond to are those who are totally subservient to him.

I will also refute James' accusations of being gay. I am not. I also am not AB. I also don't wish James any harm. He's free to build his wheels, but he will be critiqued on this board as we all experience from time to time. I don't care about his heritage, I don't care about his race, I don't think negatively of him for being a disabled vet. I'm sorry that he has health problems and got hit at 50mph. I don't sanction any form of racial pride. Critique is not the same as being attacked. As long as James keeps this up, I will keep refuting because his accusations are false and I will not stand idly by and accept it lest anyone thing they are true. They are not.

Just a reminder James...it is not a requirement of membership of this board to have any work to show. You don't know what people are working on in private and what they've done in the past. So you can use that as an arguing point, but you agreed to terms of this forum when you joined and sharing your work is not one of them.
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ovyyus wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:53 pm It's a tough choice between wack job and a couple of sadists looking after the asylum. I think we need to re-advertise the position.

Just so you know, for the surgery I want, I have to prove I'm smart. I'll be going against what doctors support. This Judge is an example
of what the surgery I want can do for me. If I didn't need surgery then I could work. That would be easier. Just read the first 3 paragraphs because
I want my colon removed as well.
https://law.uky.edu/news/womens-law-cau ... ion-uk-law

Just an FYI for you, my sister died at 47 because of Crohn's Disease. And when I had an ileostomy after surgery for cancer, I had a normal life.
No surgery means I'll suffer everyday until I die. Just am not sure why you guys would wish that on someone. I think wanting someone to needlessly
suffer is the basic definition of being sadistic. And yet because I've suffered for 13 years I won't be able to trust doctors in the U.S.
And to prove my point I have imaging and radiological reports going back 10 years. wallyboy even uses some of the imaging to make fun of me for
having a serious medical condition. I think people will ask themselves why is it the 1/2 Norwegian who needs surgery gets attacked like he's Bessler for?
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