Part Three is the Charm

[mryy]

"The cunning cat slinks silently along and snatches nice juicy mice." AP Ch. XLVI Collins

I want to focus on the word "snatches" in this metaphorical line. In other translations the word "catches" is used instead. Either word is suggestive to me of physical contact between the cat (spring) and mice (lever weights). Supposing that is the case the most likely occurrences are between 10:00 - 12:00 and 6:00 - 7:00 of the wheel design, where the two mechanisms are in closest proximity. Let's looks at the 10:00 - 12:00 region. I imagine that the spring weight, as it is whipped out by the unwinding of the blade spring, collides into the weight(s) of the lever effecting a transfer of kinetic energy. This then triggers the lever segment carrying the weights to swing outward and strike the rim stop earlier on the descending side.

[agor95]

Hi mryy

It is good you have spent time in presenting your analysis so well.

Regards

[Robinhood46]

I think the use of the word cat and mice shouldn't be overlooked.
If one cat is catching one mouse, then The cunning cat slinks silently along and snatches a nice juicy mouse.
If this is going on at different places on the wheel, then The cunning cats slink silently along and snatch nice juicy mice.
A cat snatching more than one mouse, implies to me that the cat(s) are not snatching repeatedly the same mouse(es).

[agor95]

Hi Robinhood46

Good point; What do you think about the action described is being at a one place in the rotation cycle?

Regards

[Robinhood46]

Agor, please forgive me.

What do you think about the action described is being at a one place in the rotation cycle?

I think what you're asking is, what do i think about the action described happening at a specific place of the rotation cycle? But i am probably wrong because that doesn't make any more sense than what you actually asked. LOL.
I'm afraid you will need to reformulate your question in the hope that i will understand.
If only we could share our actual thoughts, without the need to transform them into words.

[agor95]

Hi Robinhood46

This should help ;)

A wheel contacts a road at one place, but the wheel may have many spokes.

So the action of the cat & mouse happen in one pace.
But the number of cat/mice pair could be many.

[Robinhood46]

Yes, at a specific place, but not necessarily every rotation.
It's the "pair" bit that i find contradictory to the use of the words cat (one) and mice (many).
I'm thinking more on the lines of a cat snatching a mouse, then playing with it for x degrees of rotation, letting it go and then snatching the next one that comes along.
The number of cats is not an indication of the number of mice, because when the cat lets the mouse go, the cat on the next spoke of the wheel snatches it up and plays with it for a bit.
There could even be dozens of mice distributed around the wheel, and the cats just snatch one of them every rotation at a specific place, to release them later.
I hope this answers your question.

[agor95]

Hi Robinhood46

That gets my right-brain going free associating off to the Buzz saw.
Where the mice were the weights and the cat's paw was the missing hammer like
component that snatched them from inner to outer or outer to inner.

This is based on the small possibility that the Buzz saw was created using knowledge
passed down from Besslers time. Say talked about on this forum some time back.

Regards

[Robinhood46]

The cat snatches a mouse at 6 ish then lets it go at 2 ish.
The Buzzsaw with the weight shifting from outer to inner at 6 ish then letting the weight roll back to the outer at 2 ish.
It all sounds good to me. The only problem being i can't get either of them to work, even if i have convinced myself that the answer is to be found there.
How else could Bessler using cat and mice be explained?
One cat per pair of mice? Could it mean each "crossbar" has one heavy weight and two light weights, and the cat takes it in turns to snatch up, and then let go, one mouse after the other?
Is there the possibility of a simple translation error and the number of cats and mouses is anyone's guess.

[agor95]

Hi Robinhood46

These are the questions that plage left-brain dominant minds :)

The project I am thinking on has a cat snatch like action after 6 oc.
It's like the cats claw hocks around the mouse.
It just naturally happens with no actual device required just a cat/mouse action.

Regards

[mryy]

Thanks Agor. I'm glad you find my posts easy to understand which is the aim.

On a different subject I want to revisit the Toys Page (TP). There are two elements that are not often discussed I think: the lateral arms of the top and bottom pantographs C & D. I believe these arms represent weapons, namely the battle club/mace and sword. Bessler was hinting at the form, material and/or function of certain mechanisms inside the wheel when he included these elements. The club carries a heavy metal weight and delivers strikes. The sword consists of a metal blade and blades can have some amount of flex.

The style of the club and sword is intriguing. The club has a round head. Medieval clubs are outfitted with heads of various configurations, such as spiked, cylindrical, etc. The sword's guard is convex bowing away from the handle. Guards can have straight or concave profiles. Why did B. choose the round head and convex guard? If one were to superimpose the club over the sword one obtains a hybrid looking weapon of a sword with a ball tip and convex guard -- like a fencing epee/foil. Hmm ...

Notice how B. positioned the club over the sword. Compare against the lever and spring arrangement on the descending side of my clockwise wheel. (TP conveys a clockwise movement when taking together the directions of B, C, D and E.) This cannot be a coincidence, fellow mobilists.

[agor95]

Thanks Agor. I'm glad you find my posts easy to understand which is the aim.

Well hide clues in plain sight. I naturally noted the handles but not the alternative use of the component.

I trust you know of the efficient swinging of a sword?
For those who do not; You swing the sword in a figure of eight motion and walk forward.
When you swing the sword to the right diagonally as you walk, after it passes, step forward with the right leg.

Then you turn your body to help a whipping action by curving the sword from lower right to top right ready for another downward diagonal swing to the left.

Again pass the sword, step forward with the left leg, turning your body and curving the blade down around and up.

You can adjust the sword blade with a light wrist action.

Note.

If you were on a skateboard swinging a club in a figure of eight then would you move forward?

P.S.

This conserves momentum from the previous swing.
Now how do we use gravity to replace the walking action?

Regards

[mryy]

This could be finishing revision of the wheel concept barring future insight/revelation. Items C and D of the Toys Page are curiously labeled twice. One possible interpretation is that there is a second set of nested parallelograms for the blade spring. Unlike the lever the spring will not swivel at the point of attachment to the parallelogram.

I included a pair of inner tabs on one side of the stork's bill unit (SB). The lever rests on the tabs when it is on the ascending side of the wheel. This prevents the lever from swinging too far into the SB after it pulls away from the rim. There is a gap between the tabs to allow the blade spring to pass in and out of the SB unobstructed. See image legend of the upload.


Select Quote:
"When he put the wheel onto another support and reinstalled the weights in their previous positions, he pushed down on an iron spring that gave a loud noise as it expanded upwards." December 19th, 1715 - Christian Wolff letter to Leibniz (Merseburg)

[I'd imagine a blade spring reproduces what Wolff described.]


Farewell My Concubines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ICWyV-F0Q

[mryy]

The previous upload I forgot to include an annotation for the spring and lever interaction occurring in the 10:00 to 12:00 region of the wheel. MT13 vibes ...

You love it don't you? Don't you?

[Robinhood46]

I have difficulty understanding how he distinguished between Bessler pushing down on a spring and pushing down on a lever that has a counter weight. Both, if released, would give the same noise when they seek their initial position.