It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than trying to solely profit
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Scott:
I just tried to reply and it seemed to be redirected and was not posted here.
It has happened several times.....anybody else?
Continuing....
I was explaining what I'm doing with the two system approach. Perhaps the post failure was lucky for me?
Won't be as detailed this time.
One system won't work. I've gone through everything in real life with each system standing alone and am confident nothing was overlooked.
Am materializing the working wm2d sim using the two systems. One system is always in balance and continually throws the other one off enough, to roll over the dead spot of the in-balance system.
Looks complicated, but the weight's motions are simple and limited to a small space.
I just tried to reply and it seemed to be redirected and was not posted here.
It has happened several times.....anybody else?
Continuing....
I was explaining what I'm doing with the two system approach. Perhaps the post failure was lucky for me?
Won't be as detailed this time.
One system won't work. I've gone through everything in real life with each system standing alone and am confident nothing was overlooked.
Am materializing the working wm2d sim using the two systems. One system is always in balance and continually throws the other one off enough, to roll over the dead spot of the in-balance system.
Looks complicated, but the weight's motions are simple and limited to a small space.
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
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Robert,
One thing I do is keep a notepad on the desktop and from time to time paste what I've written into it and save it. That way when my computer or browser crashes I don't lose my thoughts.
Are your combined systems similar to what Ezekiel describes in Eze 1:16:
The appearance of the wheels and their work [was] like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work [was] as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
Could be Ezek upped his meds when he had that vision. If you could build that puppy it would crank. Maybe transport you to another dimension.
Robert, are you just a carpenter's boy or are you more than a carpenter? :) Seems to me the race is on! May the best child win.
Gene
One thing I do is keep a notepad on the desktop and from time to time paste what I've written into it and save it. That way when my computer or browser crashes I don't lose my thoughts.
Are your combined systems similar to what Ezekiel describes in Eze 1:16:
The appearance of the wheels and their work [was] like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work [was] as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
Could be Ezek upped his meds when he had that vision. If you could build that puppy it would crank. Maybe transport you to another dimension.
Robert, are you just a carpenter's boy or are you more than a carpenter? :) Seems to me the race is on! May the best child win.
Gene
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[It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.
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1:15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.
1:16 The appearance of the wheels and their work [was] like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work [was] as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
1:17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: [and] they turned not when they went.
1:18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings [were] full of eyes round about them four.
1:19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
1:20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither [was their] spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature [was] in the wheels.
1:21 When those went, [these] went; and when those stood, [these] stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature [was] in the wheels.
Answer "no."
There is what could be considered 3 "wheels" in my design.
I interpret JEEB's "three kingdoms " as three systems in the wheel. The outer visible structure is a kingdom in my view...
1:16 The appearance of the wheels and their work [was] like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work [was] as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
1:17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: [and] they turned not when they went.
1:18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings [were] full of eyes round about them four.
1:19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
1:20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither [was their] spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature [was] in the wheels.
1:21 When those went, [these] went; and when those stood, [these] stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature [was] in the wheels.
Answer "no."
There is what could be considered 3 "wheels" in my design.
I interpret JEEB's "three kingdoms " as three systems in the wheel. The outer visible structure is a kingdom in my view...
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
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There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
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There was an interesting book that came out, I think, during the '70's. It was titled The Spaceship of Ezekiel". The author was a NASA engineer and his book offer very convincing evidence that Ezekiel may actually have witnessed the landing of some sort of extraterrestrial spacecraft!
Supposedly, NASA used the description of what Ezekiel saw to make a model of the craft and then tested it in a wind tunner. It displayed excellent drag reducing aerodynamic properties. The description of the "wheel within a wheel" may have been referring to the landing gear of the spacecraft which allowed it to move laterally and rotationally when in contact with the ground.
Obviously, Bessler would have been familiar with the Book of Ezekiel and would have seen it as a vision of a gravity wheel of some sort...
ken
Supposedly, NASA used the description of what Ezekiel saw to make a model of the craft and then tested it in a wind tunner. It displayed excellent drag reducing aerodynamic properties. The description of the "wheel within a wheel" may have been referring to the landing gear of the spacecraft which allowed it to move laterally and rotationally when in contact with the ground.
Obviously, Bessler would have been familiar with the Book of Ezekiel and would have seen it as a vision of a gravity wheel of some sort...
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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Gee, as of 3:15 pm yesterday, I'm now 51 Y.O.
Why Happy Birthday Robert. Well, thank you.
Running out of time. And here I am talking to myself. Hope this thing works...
Captured two realizations today. Something about the springs, and something about deleting all power required to RESET the weighted levers.. I AM VERY HAPPY INDEED!! Something I couldn't see with wm2d!!!!!!!
Three kingdoms:
The outer wheel
The weighted levers
The springs
"Connectedness" may substitute for the outer wheel.
Will have to work on other priorities for the next week or so though.
Why Happy Birthday Robert. Well, thank you.
Running out of time. And here I am talking to myself. Hope this thing works...
Captured two realizations today. Something about the springs, and something about deleting all power required to RESET the weighted levers.. I AM VERY HAPPY INDEED!! Something I couldn't see with wm2d!!!!!!!
Three kingdoms:
The outer wheel
The weighted levers
The springs
"Connectedness" may substitute for the outer wheel.
Will have to work on other priorities for the next week or so though.
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
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Happy birthday Robert! You old man you! :-)
Funny you should have a birthday this month, my two daughters birthdays come next week. Yeah, party time.
May God bless you with the gift of a running wheel.
Turulato
Funny you should have a birthday this month, my two daughters birthdays come next week. Yeah, party time.
May God bless you with the gift of a running wheel.
Turulato
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Robert
Attempted to send you a graphic birthday card but this post reply box or forum private mail would not except it.
So happy Birthday!
Ralph
Attempted to send you a graphic birthday card but this post reply box or forum private mail would not except it.
So happy Birthday!
Ralph
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Happy birthday Robert. If you slow down on those birthday's I might lap you. Have you figured out how to keep the weight to constantly torque the shaft (over about 355 degrees?) I'll give you that puzzle for your birthday.
Gene
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Robert...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Well, you are now 1/50th of the way into the second half of your first century of life in our cosmos. May the remaining 49/50ths be as enjoyable...
ken
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Well, you are now 1/50th of the way into the second half of your first century of life in our cosmos. May the remaining 49/50ths be as enjoyable...
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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Well, thanks for the well wishes....
Actually, I'm expecting to live longer than 100 yrs, Ken. Whatever ratio it works out to be, it's my plan to get back all the social security and taxes I've ever paid. Right now I feel as good as when I was 18 Y.O. so it isn't looking too good for the government...
Will be back at it with the GPW (Gravity Powered Wheel) next week.
The last things I mentioned about the springs and the connectedness above were discovered yesterday when I learned that the two system approach with two sets of weights wasn't going to work. Same old story there. You know, one thing moves and creates an imbalance then when its opposite number flys around, perfect equalibrium ensues.
It was a real "hey wait -a-minute moment" when I saw what was going on. The thing that will make it go is that what I've got now will reset each weight without placing a drag on the wheel. I had time yesterday before leaving, to connect six weighted levers and it went way farther than it needed to, to pull follow-on weights. At the beginning of this thread I had one weighted lever going way far, but when I tried to make it happen with more than that it wouldn't go.
There's springs, connectedness, and an important slot. There are 12 weighted levers.
If this works, and someone showed it to me who had discovered it, it is so simple, so in your face, so right under everyone's nose, that I might pull out a pistol and shoot myself in the head because I hadn't thought of it....
Or just bump my forehead with the heel of my hand and scream, "Scheese!!!"
Actually, I'm expecting to live longer than 100 yrs, Ken. Whatever ratio it works out to be, it's my plan to get back all the social security and taxes I've ever paid. Right now I feel as good as when I was 18 Y.O. so it isn't looking too good for the government...
Will be back at it with the GPW (Gravity Powered Wheel) next week.
The last things I mentioned about the springs and the connectedness above were discovered yesterday when I learned that the two system approach with two sets of weights wasn't going to work. Same old story there. You know, one thing moves and creates an imbalance then when its opposite number flys around, perfect equalibrium ensues.
It was a real "hey wait -a-minute moment" when I saw what was going on. The thing that will make it go is that what I've got now will reset each weight without placing a drag on the wheel. I had time yesterday before leaving, to connect six weighted levers and it went way farther than it needed to, to pull follow-on weights. At the beginning of this thread I had one weighted lever going way far, but when I tried to make it happen with more than that it wouldn't go.
There's springs, connectedness, and an important slot. There are 12 weighted levers.
If this works, and someone showed it to me who had discovered it, it is so simple, so in your face, so right under everyone's nose, that I might pull out a pistol and shoot myself in the head because I hadn't thought of it....
Or just bump my forehead with the heel of my hand and scream, "Scheese!!!"
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
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Went to the shop yesterday and worked with the GPW for a couple hours.
No success, but no failure either.
At this moment, the jury is leaning towards conviction of a 1st Law violation....meaning, bank robbers break open the vault while violating the law.
No success, but no failure either.
At this moment, the jury is leaning towards conviction of a 1st Law violation....meaning, bank robbers break open the vault while violating the law.
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
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I hopethe Bhuddist and Islamist won't find offense with the GPW, as there are 12 crosses inside. The points form 3 Stars of David.
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
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From the smallest snowflake to the largest planet, from the greatest circling herd to the least round “wheel,” from the most glorious peacock tail to the most playful pup, from the oldest column to the newest chain, from the slowest crab to the fastest wind, and from the sharpest anvil blow to the quietest of questions, “... all things denote there is a God ...”
Would you call it glorious squared?
A. Gene Young
ps: I've described it as that before
Would you call it glorious squared?
A. Gene Young
ps: I've described it as that before
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[It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.
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IINM, the Buddhists believe there are many paths to God, so I don't think they'll mind. Plus, I can only imagine the Dalai Lama issuing a fatwa against you. :D
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I would call it simplicity, harmony, and love cubed.
That is what heaven is too.
Glory to God in the highest and his son Jesus Christ.
Amen.
That is what heaven is too.
Glory to God in the highest and his son Jesus Christ.
Amen.
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.