Part Three is the Charm

[JUBAT]

I think I get it Sam. Heavy rollers can sink to the lowest point of the wheel and still maintain balance as they do work. What they move into position causes the imbalance. How exactly I don't know, but seems like you've got it figured out.

[agor95]

So if w=f*d , how do you do it ? :)

Now you are getting into an area that is interesting.

[Sam Peppiatt]

JUBAT,
That's it exactly! God love you! At least that fix's the lifting problem, which is the most difficult of all. However, still more to learn. The details so to speak.
I agree. How can they shift so far below the center line and, still remain balanced? Thanks JUBAT! I needed that---Sam

[agor95]

Hi johannesbender

Lets look at the 8 step ladder were we can go down these 8 steps to the ground
and return up to the 7th step without figuring anything out.

I took the liberty of placing the ladder at a angle. So it is in effect a ramp.
The person is replaced with a cog wheel rolling over the ladder steps.
That does look like a rack and pinion type of setup?

Now I have noticed a member commented on the AP Wheel construction lines do not go through the centre?

I kind of folder that observation into the ladder ramp above.

The ladder as it slopes down, like a ramp, also curves around. Like a spiral around a cylinder.

The speed of the cog at the bottom will be the same, but the ramp will be more compacted.
[ I need to think on the topic of gyroscopic effects ]

To include the AP Wheel observation it also needs to spiral out!

In a circle the perpendicular lines to the tangle point to the centre.

In this case these lines point just in-front of the centre.

What is all this for?

We know a mass has a straight line path. A push/pull perpendicular to that straight line path causes a circle.
The speed along this path does not change.

With the mass rolling down the ladder ramp, thus losing PE and gaining KE, it is also being push/pulled
in a direction towards the centre and forwards in the direction of travel.

Thus the mass is on two ramps one vertically and the other radially.
Where the mass is pulled down and slightly forward in the vertical and in the radial.

The extra speed at the bottom of the ramp assists getting up the last 8th step using a straight ramped ladder.

That is the best I can do at short notice.

Regards

[agor95]

I have been toying with the notion of using complex numbers to simplify my conceptual ideas.

That means the displacement of a mass in the direction of travel is the real part and the perpendicular displacement is the imaginary part.

The right hand rule applied so a positive imaginary part causes a curve counter clockwise.
The index finger points straight in the direction of travel. The thumb point up and the second finger points 90 degrees
to the index finger.

So a straight line path has a zero imaginary value. A change is covered by the acceleration complex number.
The spiralling out is covered by the ersatz complex number [Hoo I have gone all Grimer]

Time for a drink

[UbWe]

JUBAT,
That's it exactly! God love you! At least that fix's the lifting problem, which is the most difficult of all. However, still more to learn. The details so to speak.
I agree. How can they shift so far below the center line and, still remain balanced? Thanks JUBAT! I needed that---Sam

w = m * d. And you guys never knew this? Are you guys serious? I think I am in the wrong place. Thank You Jubat for showing these guys don't
understand basic science.

[JUBAT]

JUBAT,
That's it exactly! God love you! At least that fix's the lifting problem, which is the most difficult of all. However, still more to learn. The details so to speak.
I agree. How can they shift so far below the center line and, still remain balanced? Thanks JUBAT! I needed that---Sam

w = m * d. And you guys never knew this? Are you guys serious? I think I am in the wrong place. Thank You Jubat for showing these guys don't
understand basic science.

Fuck off Lindgaard. I've had enough of your bullshit. Go back to your corner.

[JUBAT]

JUBAT,
That's it exactly! God love you! At least that fix's the lifting problem, which is the most difficult of all. However, still more to learn. The details so to speak.
I agree. How can they shift so far below the center line and, still remain balanced? Thanks JUBAT! I needed that---Sam

I was following the thread earlier on with the 3 rollers tending to make the wheel stay out of balance. That really caught my attention. It kind of went nowhere after that, but I didn't forget the idea with the circular cubbies containing the weights. Even though that all sat low in their circular cubbies, the wheel stayed in balance. It's just that there is no forward movement with that arrangement.

BUT!

I think whatever you have discovered Sam, must somehow use the rolling of the weights to activate something that keeps the wheel out of balance. The rolling weights are the activator weights and they make something move. That is the part I don't grasp because there are infinite varieties of mechanisms that could be used - with probably only one out of many that does the trick. I understand if you don't wish to reveal that, but if you do at some point, I'll probably say, "Ah! Now I understand." :)

[UbWe]

JUBAT,
That's it exactly! God love you! At least that fix's the lifting problem, which is the most difficult of all. However, still more to learn. The details so to speak.
I agree. How can they shift so far below the center line and, still remain balanced? Thanks JUBAT! I needed that---Sam

w = m * d. And you guys never knew this? Are you guys serious? I think I am in the wrong place. Thank You Jubat for showing these guys don't
understand basic science.

Fuck off Lindgaard. I've had enough of your bullshit. Go back to your corner.

I'm coming for you. And if they support you in here like they have then they are you. They are your children.
They support you and I am coming. You don't believe in mercy and neither do your friends. Understood.

[JUBAT]

Please elaborate what you mean by, "I'm coming for you."

That's about enough out of you Lindgaard.

You don't believe in mercy either by quoting old posts from AB Hammer from like 2015. So people must show you mercy but you don't have to?

Enough of this.

[UbWe]

Please elaborate what you mean by, "I'm coming for you."

That's about enough out of you Lindgaard.

And who are you Jubat? Maybe a child molester supported by this forum? They do like you when all you say is come here little boy.
That makes them as guilty as you.

[Sam Peppiatt]

JUBAT,
Yes, you are right. The rollers don't turn the wheel, instead they work a toggle linkage, that moves the weights. There are two rings, (drums), one at 9:00 and the other at 3:00, for balance. SHADOW made a good drawing of the toggle assy., which Waltcy posted to my thread. Please go back to page 69, Sat May 27, to view it. It shifts the weights in and out, radially-----------------Sam

[WaltzCee]

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ETA
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[Sam Peppiatt]

You must be reading my mind, Waltcy.-----------Sam
PS There is only one toggle at 9:00 and one at 3:00. One for each drum.

[JUBAT]

Please elaborate what you mean by, "I'm coming for you."

That's about enough out of you Lindgaard.

And who are you Jubat? Maybe a child molester supported by this forum? They do like you when all you say is come here little boy.
That makes them as guilty as you.

Shut up Lindgaard. That's filthy talk. What's a matter? Did your latest wheel project fail and you're taking it out on the forum?