Johann Bessler wheel simulation

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Johann Bessler wheel simulation

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If anyone is interested I have the simulation in VR big screen the title of the room is making impossible possible.
I am pretty confident you won't be disappointed if you give me a time and date I'll make sure I open the room I hope you're all in good health so the shock won't injure you!
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The only way to shock most here would be to show a physical working device.
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And the only way to get any real interest would be to tell us what it is you are talking about.
Most of us know, only too well, that every single promised solution to date has turned out to be bollocks.
Expecting everyone to take your opinion of actually having a solution, or something very interesting, seriously, is very revealing of your difficulty to acknowledge reality. We need to keep it real and not expect members to believe, because faith has no place here.
I will not be shocked if you show a working wheel, i may be surprised as to where the solution was found, but i would not be shocked that it was found.
You obviously live in a fantasy world, where you imagine things that are not real, so the probability that you have actually found something very interesting is, in my opinion, extremely low. As always i hope that i am wrong and you have found something.
MY bottom line to anyone claiming any kind of major progress is, tell us what you are talking about or shut up.
For any snowflakes who find "shut up" to be a bit too harsh, and a cause for being offended, please feel free to change it to "please refrain from telling us you have something worth talking about".
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StephenG345,

You seem like a sincere intelligent & honest person. I've given this matter of your rediscovery a lot of thought & believe we can come to terms.

If you could post your picture & address, I could dispatch a courier to you with a check for $50,000 USD (fify thousand dollars & no sense USD) & a contract for your review.

Talk it over with your people & let me know what you think. If you decide not to sign the contract, you can keep the retainer.

Hoping to hear from you soon
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I smell Nigeria.
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Stephen G345 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:50 am If anyone is interested I have the simulation in VR big screen the title of the room is making impossible possible.
I am pretty confident you won't be disappointed if you give me a time and date I'll make sure I open the room I hope you're all in good health so the shock won't injure you!
Hello Stephen,

What might work better is to announce when the room is open. An excellent idea would be to make a YouTube video and post a link.

I have very good health insurance & assume all liability for any injuries I receive while viewing your reveal.
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I am willing to show anyone who is interested and I will explain in real world terms the properties that are in effect . You will see there are examples we have today it's just that they don't understand it can be done in a circle they lack the geometry and the understanding. I'm not interested in a contract and monetary gain doesn't really matter anymore. I will explain the clues as Bessler wrote them in simplistic and direct terms after all he was a man of God and science. IF that contradictory to your understanding then the answer to the problem is your lack of imagination. The individual that sees this simulation if they have an understanding of physics and circular motion will study it and they'll rack their brain over the simplicity and calculable motion which is not violated in any way shape or form it's simple and then you'll understand why no one that goes down the path who makes the first assumption will ever succeed unless you understand how Bessler used the word impetus there is no hope for you!

By the way my handle is the same as here on big screen it shouldn't be difficult for you to find the room when I have it open if you make a handle in big screen and post it here I will expect you I'm not trying to sell anything I'm not interested in that. I'm simply interested in the truth that's the most important reason to pursue this understanding.
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I'll come watch too if you'll allow it. No worries about me trying to profit off of it. I just want to see proof that it can be done before I kick it.
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This is a forum where many people are trying to find the solution to PM, the vast majority is focused on Bessler's wheel.
Why do you want to go somewhere else to show us a simulation, when you can do exactly the same as dozens of other members, and simply make a video anywhere you wish, and post a link to it here?
What is the reasoning behind getting a few members to "come over" to wherever it is you are talking about, to get the message out about PM?
Why can you not just share your work here, a space specifically designed for sharing work on PM?
You say;
"The individual that sees this simulation if they have an understanding of physics and circular motion will study it and they'll rack their brain over the simplicity and calculable motion which is not violated in any way shape or form it's simple".
You also say;
"I am willing to show anyone who is interested".
And;
"I'm simply interested in the truth that's the most important reason to pursue this understanding."
You say everything that implies you have wonderful intentions, yet you do everything that contradicts what you say.
This forum has many members who satisfy all of your specifications, they have an understanding of physics, they are interested in seeing your simulation and they too want to know the truth.
You have absolutely everything you need here, to do exactly what it is you want to do.
My question to you is, why are you not taking advantage of this wonderful occasion and sharing your work here?
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It's "Bull Sh*t"! perhaps I should say, simulated BS-------------------Sam
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Valid points Robinhood. If it can't be shown here, then there will most assuredly be a catch. Pay to enter, information harvesting, investment, or some kind of catch that profits the snake oil salesman.
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Jubat,
I certainly wouldn't say that there definitely is a catch.
We must acknowledge that Trevor and Spinner (for example), who both talk about their work pointlessly because they don't show us what it is they are talking about, have the best of intentions and are not trying to extort money from anyone. They are both actively trying to solving the problem, and they do both share their views on different topics. They are both good guys. My guess would be that they genuinely think that posting tons of posts that say absolutely nothing of any use, have a purpose. The only purpose i can see them having is they let us know that they are still working on their wheels, that they are progressing in one way or another and that they are still very optimistic, which is all well and good, but it doesn't actually tell us anything. We do not even have the ability to have an opinion, as to the importance or the interest of their work, because there isn't anything to have an opinion about.
Maybe StephanG345, is just another person who thinks talking about something without actually saying anything about it, has a purpose.
I hope that Stephan does realise the absurdity of his behaviour and shares his work here, as i do with Trevor and Spinner.
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My skepticism in such matters ranks pretty high. It's so easy these days to say stuff online and even if pictures are presented to try and lend proof to the statements made, I still squint my eyes and look off to the side with an, "Oh really?" kind of face.

Maybe they are really trying, but posts without pictures (including mine) are so boring and a dime a dozen. At least John Collins has decided to slowly start posting pictures of his sim-failed build.

So to make this post a little more interesting, here is food for thought: Imagine an inverted pendulum. When you let go of it, it flops either to the left or to the right. If you put physical stops on either side of that pendulum, regardless if it falls to the left or to the right, you've limited its travel. Now if you take that inverted pendulum and hook it to a wheel, if the pendulum falls to the left, the wheel will go left. If it falls to the right, the wheel will go right.

There is a way to construct it so that if it falls one direction, the wheel will not see it for it is in balance. If it flops the other way, the wheel will suddenly see a massive over-balance and rapidly go down on that side.

Instead of the balance being such that you get a movement to the left or to the right, you now have a balance where it can only ever go one way.

Still a post without pictures is boring so it might just be worth it to ignore this post and move along. My solution is only mere days away!
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I noticed those ideas myself, RH.
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JUBAT wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:26 pm Valid points Robinhood. If it can't be shown here, then there will most assuredly be a catch.
  • Pay to enter,
  • information harvesting,
  • investment,
or some kind of catch
  • that profits
the snake oil salesman .
ultimately power & control.
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I like to give the benefit of the doubt to anyone.
As i have already said we are a strange bunch, and we all have our little quirks, myself included.
I find it very frustrating when people talk about their work without telling us what their work involves. To me it seems so bloody pointless, i cannot for the life of me understand why they do it. What is the point of telling us that they are onto something, if they are not prepared to tell us what it is they are onto? To me it just defies logic, why don't they just STFU, keep their opinion of being onto something to themselves.
I wish them all the best in their endeavour and i sincerely hope that they succeed where i have failed. I would try my utmost to help them, as would many other members on this forum, but we can't, because we haven't got the faintest of an idea as to what they are talking about. They could actually be onto something incredibly interesting, just as much as they are wasting their time because there is detail they have overlooked (probably not exactly the same likelihood).
It winds me up something rotten and then i start posting comments about them being egocentric fools who talk bollocks, which doesn't help.
I don't know what the answer is, they don't seem to be able to understand to what point their comments are pathetic and pointless, and i can't not get annoyed by their pathetic and pointless comments because it pisses me off. What is the point of posting, "i have a secret but I'm not telling anyone what it is". Do they not realise how pathetic they are? I am sometimes ashamed to be associated with some of the members of this forum. I just wish they would grow up and stop behaving like attention seeking children.
Right, I've had another rant, I'll be able to ignore them for while, until the next time one of the pisses me off big time with their egocentric gibberish.
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