Johann Bessler wheel simulation

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I disagree. Stephen wasn't willing to answer some very obvious skepticism for example
RH wrote:What is the reasoning behind getting a few members to "come over" to wherever it is you are talking about, to get the message out about PM?
Why can you not just share your work here, a space specifically designed for sharing work on PM?
That question deserves an answer particularly from someone saying
Stephen wrote:I'm simply interested in the truth that's the most important reason to pursue this understanding.
We are also, Stephen.
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When I read through it, you guys were harsh. It was not welcoming at all. You guys were very demanding. Maybe you could slow down and be a little softer. This is not the first time that I have seen people chased away. I think that this website is a hostile environment.
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Why didn't you just pm him and go for it? You could have had it all to yourself and made a friend...
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This is not the place.
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When I read through it, you guys were harsh. It was not welcoming at all. You guys were very demanding. Maybe you could slow down and be a little softer. This is not the first time that I have seen people chased away. I think that this website is a hostile environment.
I will explain the clues as Bessler wrote them in simplistic and direct terms after all he was a man of God and science. IF that contradictory to your understanding then the answer to the problem is your lack of imagination.
Sounds a bit arrogant to me. Also, he wasn't planning on staying, he only wanted to say what he wanted and leave.
I have the simulation in VR big screen the title of the room is making impossible possible.
By the way my handle is the same as here on big screen it shouldn't be difficult for you to find the room when I have it open if you make a handle in big screen
If you are interested, I think you have to download bigscreen, create an account, log in and find the room and connect with StephenG345.
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spinner361 wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:31 pm This is not the place.
I think that's how most of us felt.
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He's done this before, (SG345)
Wasn't it some kind of electrical device? That he was pushing, that had nothing to do with gravity at all-----Sam
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Well done Sam. I think you're right. I'll have to research this and see if i can find his posts.
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spinner361 wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:22 pm I think that you guys chased StephenG345 away. There may have been a better way of responding to him where he may have been more comfortable sharing.
You could be right. They are a hard lot to please here.

I for one will read a post and ask questions.
If a person has a had time with communicating and building an understanding.
Then at least we know sooner than later. Being a hermit is not a habit you can get out of easily.

I just got back and quickly read some unread posts. Are you happy with how you are being treated here?

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I think how other people are being treated should be taken into consideration, when judging how members treat other members.

I have often shared my view, which can certainly be considered harsh, about members being selfish bastards, who put the well being of their financial state or their personnel ego, above the well being of the entire human race and the planet that it exists on. Many members don't like my opinion, and feel that it is normal that they should get something personnel in return for their hard work, which i understand entirely, i just insist that that is what being a selfish bastard is.
I have no complaints whatsoever as to the way i am treated on this forum, we are here to share our views, not make friends. The only people i see being treated badly, are the ones who make claims of success, or promises of definite runners in x amount of time, and other stupid unfounded claims that have no signification whatsoever to anyone other than the person making the claims. These people do get treated with a certain degree of hostility.
Trying to help them understand the mistake that they are, in all probability, making, as nicely and politely as possible doesn't work, they don't want to hear that they might be talking bollocks. We all know, that in all probability, they are talking bollocks, but they do not like this fact and they cling to the illusion that they are different and take offence when people don't take them seriously.
You must ask yourself, why are you being treated badly? Because even a complete dick, like myself, who insults people doesn't get treated badly.
Preoccupied talks about his time machine, and being famous people in the past and he still doesn't get treated as badly as you.
What are you doing that members don't like? That others are not doing.
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I'm with ya on this. Success will be defined by someone who states as such and starts right off the bat with pictures and video of success. The resultant skepticism would be expected, but the proof would be slowly revealed consistently and confidently.

A legit working device is not proven through through layers of word games and hoops of smoke and mirrors, trips to other websites, cryptic links and so forth. It either works or it doesn't and it can be shown just as easily as Bessler showed his wheel.

99.9% of claims of success are total bullshit and that pattern of false claims gets old. Plus, nobody says you have to reveal a damn thing nor do you have to reveal it here on the forum.

Legit reveals will have the correct air to them...the feelng of confidence and legitimacy that will be unmistakable without all the shady sketchy behaviour of con men and scam artists.
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Robinhood46 wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:03 pm Because even a complete dick, like myself, who insults people ...
You are quite right you are a complete dick. You have integrity and speak directly.

Keep on being who you are!
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It is a good exercise for you to think on and declare what you want from being a poster on this forum.

Most members appreciate a direct short declaration. A characteristic of left brain bias.

This thread started with a declaration for members to used an unfamiliar product/site to allow communication; take-it or leave-it.

Do people like being micromanaged?

For those who communicate with other members and find the communication unpleasant.
Well do not communicate with those members.
Think on the first line of this post and Private Message a member that appears reasonable.

As we have a weak monitor here that allows toxic members. Then the monitor has to be yourself - use the ignore option.

P.S. Do not tar all members with the same brush.
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Mark my words...being all nicely nice is going to allow the proliferation of scams and cons. Taking a soft approach isn't going to solve the wheel any faster.

The last thing I need is to have the nurse maid police parse my posts because it hurt somebody's feelings.

I'm generally supportive yet zero tolerance for bullshit.

The moderator isn't weak...after all he bans Lindgaard. If you think people like me or WC are toxic, without us this forum would die. It would turn into a bunch of women at Starbucks gabbing about with nothing to show for their time.

Maybe we can start a kumbaya prayer circle and get everyone to feeling really good. Maybe even pass the collection plate and raise some funds for the site.

Btw: How much have you guys donated to Scott for supporting the site? I sent him 100 bucks a few weeks ago and I plan to do more. I'd bet those who scream and holler about the temperment of the site are the same people who haven't donated a cent.
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Re: Johann Bessler wheel simulation

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P.S. Do not tar all members with the same brush.
I agree with this.
99.9% of claims of success are total bullshit and that pattern of false claims gets old.
Jubat, I think you underestimated that.
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