Apologies to all...but the previous post had the wrong video link so I've had to repeat this post corrected.
I have previously presented this...but nowhere near good enough, obviously...because it is surely crystal clear, once noticed, that something quite remarkable & hitherto unimaginable is at play here.
Please play this video, best set it to cycle...maybe watch for your amusement for a while, though I doubt you'll glean much other than a headache for the trying.
Leave it running to one side, this post to the other, now study the video whilst referring to the following text.
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The geometry at play is simple enough...
We have three spheres in a triangle but they are to turn within it...as shown these are grouped together, each touching along the sides of the triangle (black)
As they turn these three spheres extend outwards, into the triangle's three tips (grey).
The spheres are to travel/trace through a triangle here, not a circle.
The video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etg2e8IF-Dw
Stop the video where two opposite shoes align across the 12 0'clock that you're looking down upon. Inside this hollow rests a sphere, likewise two other spheres around...three spheres grouped together.
IMPORTANT...the closer these discs are to each other the easier it is for you to see the action. In this video I've done just that. You'll hopefully be able to appreciate that any sphere of the geometry shown would have to be a severely squashed sphere in this example!! So please bear in mind, at all times for its important at all times, that these two discs are significantly wider apart than shown
The sphere in this hollow is sat in/on the four petals seen within it. These four petals are in contact with the sphere at four points around its diameter (remember, the discs are wider apart!)
Sat, such that the sphere is a whisker away from hitting the axle. All three spheres are in this position, all three also just a whisker away from touching each other.
The four petal edges act in pairs...top/left with bottom right, bottom left with top right.
Moving on from this start point, the B/L & T/R begin the spiral upwards, taking the sphere with them. The point is reached where both petal edges have spiraled fully up....where these two edges are at 12o'clock.
Here is the same position but wider, so this point would look more like this...
When in this position the sphere is being held at two points across its diameter...not atop as the video would suggest.
So, upon reaching this point, then the sphere is ready to roll into two aligned cup halves.
One last time to hammer it home as it's of prime consideration!...
These two cup halves are actually wider apart....wide enough apart that a sphere sat here will be in rather than on, in to the point where it is making contact with the two halves at two points across its diameter. I have a hunch that this device is so beautifully thought out that all three spheres are only touching the discs at two points across their diameter at all times throughout, bar our start point where it is held across two diameters/four points.
From here, petal sides TL & B/R then appear, ready to spiral it back down...to reach our start point.
If the discs are turned in reverse then B/L & T/R perform the spiraling down...T/L & B/R the spiraling up.
It may take a while but you'll see it all clearly enough, soon enough.
We therefore have two discs turning in opposite directions, thus two axles if affixed. As they do, so three spheres move in/out from the axle.
These spheres are static though, they are not themselves turning around the axle as they go...and they must.
Referring back to the simple geometry....this device is placed within a triangle, all be it with its tips rounded off. It will then drive itself around this triangle as suggested back there.
I'm not going to claim this a PM device, though I strongly suspect it may be...because this would clearly be a seventh machine to add to the six already known to Physics surely?
As for PM?...it has the required elements for sure. It's inventive and hitherto unimaginable, even though divinely simple.
The answer must include these three elements, si?
No desire to bore you further but two Bessler wheel engravings, designed appropriately & placed on an axle, will facilitate the same principle...not with spheres of course....but for another time maybe?
Gill
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Hello Gill
Based on your video we are talking about three sphere being move from an inner to an outer position.
The spheres are in a layer co-planar i.e. flat and do not tumble as in your tetrahedron 4 sphere concept.
The counter rotating Sabu Discs supply the power to act as cogs too guide this movement.
Where is the Hidden Secrete several counter rotating cogs can be conceived to move spheres forwards and backwards along a radial line?
Regards
Based on your video we are talking about three sphere being move from an inner to an outer position.
The spheres are in a layer co-planar i.e. flat and do not tumble as in your tetrahedron 4 sphere concept.
The counter rotating Sabu Discs supply the power to act as cogs too guide this movement.
Where is the Hidden Secrete several counter rotating cogs can be conceived to move spheres forwards and backwards along a radial line?
Regards
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Hello agor...apologies for the delay in replying...the usual excuse of ever worsening illness sad to say.
So...Based on your video we are talking about three sphere being moved from an inner to an outer position....yes.
The spheres are in a layer co-planar i.e. flat and do not tumble as in your tetrahedron 4 sphere concept.....yes, this is a departure from that 4 sphere concept although `layer co-planer` isn't a term I have any understanding of?
The counter rotating Sabu Discs supply the power to act as cogs too guide this movement....errr, the petals of the counter rotating discs act as rails that guide this movement...as the discs turn these rails spiral upwards (out) forcing the sphere/s upwards as they do so. Likewise, rails spiraling in the opposite direction spiral downwards (in) carrying the sphere/s downwards, back to the start position.
Where is the Hidden Secrete several counter rotating cogs can be conceived to move spheres forwards and backwards along a radial line?
Sorry...could you perhaps rephrase please that 'cos I'm not understanding your question?
The spheres do not move around the axle, if this is what you're referring to...the two discs turn but the spheres simply move in/out without any change in their position around the axle.
I need to point out that this action is not theory but fact....I have two printed discs set a distance apart on an axle & three appropriately sized spheres that when bunched together, each touch the axle, each touches the others..& all three fit perfectly within the circumference of the discs.
If I place one sphere between two opposite `shoes` & twist the discs against each other, in either direction, then this sphere does indeed rise up/out to rest between the two cups & to then fall back down/in...it performs this action effortlessly & to perfection...it's somewhat wondrous to observe for sure & if I can get well enough so's not to be almost entirely bedridden & fighting for every breath then I will attempt to offer a short video of this.
I have no idea as to why the two discs are designed to perform this action...but perform it they most definitely do & I can't help but assume that there must be some good reason for this remarkable act of 3D geometry?
I cannot for a moment assume that this is by some accident & that the Sabu disc now still remains a mystery with all the frankly silly notions thus far applied to it...that in itself would have to be a silly notion..now...almost as silly as folk here choosing to ignore it as though it is meaningless?
So...Based on your video we are talking about three sphere being moved from an inner to an outer position....yes.
The spheres are in a layer co-planar i.e. flat and do not tumble as in your tetrahedron 4 sphere concept.....yes, this is a departure from that 4 sphere concept although `layer co-planer` isn't a term I have any understanding of?
The counter rotating Sabu Discs supply the power to act as cogs too guide this movement....errr, the petals of the counter rotating discs act as rails that guide this movement...as the discs turn these rails spiral upwards (out) forcing the sphere/s upwards as they do so. Likewise, rails spiraling in the opposite direction spiral downwards (in) carrying the sphere/s downwards, back to the start position.
Where is the Hidden Secrete several counter rotating cogs can be conceived to move spheres forwards and backwards along a radial line?
Sorry...could you perhaps rephrase please that 'cos I'm not understanding your question?
The spheres do not move around the axle, if this is what you're referring to...the two discs turn but the spheres simply move in/out without any change in their position around the axle.
I need to point out that this action is not theory but fact....I have two printed discs set a distance apart on an axle & three appropriately sized spheres that when bunched together, each touch the axle, each touches the others..& all three fit perfectly within the circumference of the discs.
If I place one sphere between two opposite `shoes` & twist the discs against each other, in either direction, then this sphere does indeed rise up/out to rest between the two cups & to then fall back down/in...it performs this action effortlessly & to perfection...it's somewhat wondrous to observe for sure & if I can get well enough so's not to be almost entirely bedridden & fighting for every breath then I will attempt to offer a short video of this.
I have no idea as to why the two discs are designed to perform this action...but perform it they most definitely do & I can't help but assume that there must be some good reason for this remarkable act of 3D geometry?
I cannot for a moment assume that this is by some accident & that the Sabu disc now still remains a mystery with all the frankly silly notions thus far applied to it...that in itself would have to be a silly notion..now...almost as silly as folk here choosing to ignore it as though it is meaningless?
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I am not so sure why you guys get so excited about an ancient clothes washing machine.
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Hello spinner361
The sabu disc was found in the centre of a tomb broken and missing it's stand.
The assumption was either the tomb owner carved the disc in stone himself.
Or commission the sabu disc to illuminate his final resting place.
There was a period during the transition from the stone age to the bronze age that
cross over objects were made. Copper then bronze axes were made in the same shape as stone.
However bronze axes shape quickly slimmed down producing a sharper cutting angle.
Stone breaks when reduced to a slim form.
Here a bronze brazier was made in stone. It would have cracked if used so it's
would be a spirit 'on the other side' illumination.
I assume the stand was wood covered with gold leaf and that was stolen in he past.
Do I believe the Sabu disc was used in Bessler's design - no.
Could it be showing the way to a design using Bessler's discovery but going
beyond it to the next step - possibly.
Regards
The sabu disc was found in the centre of a tomb broken and missing it's stand.
The assumption was either the tomb owner carved the disc in stone himself.
Or commission the sabu disc to illuminate his final resting place.
There was a period during the transition from the stone age to the bronze age that
cross over objects were made. Copper then bronze axes were made in the same shape as stone.
However bronze axes shape quickly slimmed down producing a sharper cutting angle.
Stone breaks when reduced to a slim form.
Here a bronze brazier was made in stone. It would have cracked if used so it's
would be a spirit 'on the other side' illumination.
I assume the stand was wood covered with gold leaf and that was stolen in he past.
Do I believe the Sabu disc was used in Bessler's design - no.
Could it be showing the way to a design using Bessler's discovery but going
beyond it to the next step - possibly.
Regards
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That was a great history lesson. I guess it would have been strange to be buried with a washing machine agitator. Where are the hieroglyphics that explain this thing?
In the event of my success, I want to make hieroglyphics. Sort of. Stonehenge comes to mind. Something that cannot be easily destroyed. Something that can be understood. It is important to finish the project though so it does not leave future civilizations scratching their heads.
In the event of my success, I want to make hieroglyphics. Sort of. Stonehenge comes to mind. Something that cannot be easily destroyed. Something that can be understood. It is important to finish the project though so it does not leave future civilizations scratching their heads.
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I recommend you look up 'aquamation' for litmus test and a washing machine agitation are used in the burial process.spinner361 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 2:36 pm I guess it would have been strange to be buried with a washing machine agitator...
Have a large tomb stone over your remains and place the hieroglyph on the underside.spinner361 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 2:36 pm I want to make hieroglyphics. Something that can be understood.
It is important to finish the project though so it does not leave future civilizations scratching their heads.
Ho have some scratches on the underside. As if you tried to get out.
It is good to give a future civilization a reason to scratch their heads.
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