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Re: Inertial propulsion...

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Sam Peppiatt wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 3:24 pm alex,
For inertial propulsion to succeed, it has to "push off" from some thing. Like a small boat can push off from a dock. This is the only way that it will ever work.
There is another way..maybe.

There is something called Maxwells wheel. Basicly a jojo , but the fun part, it weigh less as it descend.
The funnier part? Put it horizontally , and use a spring and string for accelration.

The reason for this is quite simple , it has a small axle and large flywheels , and one side will accelrate forward, and the other
side will accelrate backward (relative to the motion of the axle/assembly itself). This causes the forward and backward momentum
to mostly cancel each other out.

Since one side is slightly longer because of the thickness of the axle, it is not a perfect cancellation , but it's noticable.

Can it work for propulsion? Weeeelll.. kinda. But it needs more work. And motors, instead of handwinding it. Might be possible, but i haven't worked on it for a couple years. It wasn't exactly efficient though. All that accelration, and i got like, 5 -10mm of movement.
One of the keys to make it work though, make sure the flywheel is free to move backward just after impact.

Unfortunly, it seems i can't post links yet. (probaly safer for the sanity of a public forum anyway).

Why i made it? I wanted to make a pendulum drive, and after that one worked (with ratched mechanism on the wheel) , i tried inertial propulsion.
And after that worked (kinda) , i started looking into perpetual motion stuff.
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…..Hi Sam !
Your “dock” is everywhere and anytime…this is the inertial property of space-time/Cosmos.
You intend “to push off” the boat…my allegory is different… “ to catch up the wind “ via pendular rotation.
The problem is how you play this double property of mass relative to energy induced phenomena : gravity and inertia.
You can drive with planar pendulum: YouTube/ “Superiority of pendulum drive.Potential energy to kinetic energy “.
You can harvest the energy with spherical penduulums: https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/15/22/8674
But we can drive with any kind of pendulums…also.
Planar drive pendulums proposal , at : www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Inertial_Ro ... led033.jpg
Spherical drive pendulums proposals , at : www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Inertial_Ro ... led037.jpg
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Re: Inertial propulsion...

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Alex, yes, I agree with you. Centrifugal inertia forces are unlimited and every where. Beyond that though, I'm lost. So I'm probably wrong about the rest of it.... Don't listen to me----------Sam
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Hi Sam!
Anyway…we must”agree” about this topic…it has an history,if we take a look at :
https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journ ... nload/3772
About our allegory regarding inertia (dock/ground…wind and sail ) , we are talking about a kind of “support”…
In my opinion , Bessler’s Wheel and Pendular propulsion (…of Inertia ) have a common “key”…the so called Prime Mover !?
Al_ex / An inertial sailor…
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…..can be a particularly oscillatory (“bouncing”…) game with rotational inertia.
The common bouncing game with “vertical line “ of gravity , at :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouncing_ball/
A possible bouncing game with centrifugal/inertial rotors :
-vibratory (to & fro) motion , on a line : www.tvtamerica.com/Wurges/Vibrator-motors.htm …as a first step…we have it.
www.chuan-sheng.com.tw/product.php?lang=en&id=68
-pulsatory (TO…only) motion on a half/radial line…as a second step…a “rectified” vibration…we need to imagine and test it !
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