Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Thanks SHADOW!!
I will check it out, you always make elegant drawings------------Sam
I will check it out, you always make elegant drawings------------Sam
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Follow up,
A single clutch in the center to control every thing, is a major break through mechanically and, for the concept as well. I can hardly believe it. Being in the center means it will be balanced. I could even add a small flywheel, to smooth the rotation of the clutch.
Four power pulses per revolution should produce nearly constant torque to the wheel-------------Sam
A single clutch in the center to control every thing, is a major break through mechanically and, for the concept as well. I can hardly believe it. Being in the center means it will be balanced. I could even add a small flywheel, to smooth the rotation of the clutch.
Four power pulses per revolution should produce nearly constant torque to the wheel-------------Sam
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Bessler's wheel zeroed in; maybe.
Looks like Bessler's wheel had a crank shaft in the center of the wheel, just like the crank shaft on a gasoline engine. The cross-bar and rollers are double acting. When ever a cross-bar is vertical, it rotates the crank shaft. When ever they are horizontal, the crank shifts the rollers to one side. In on the up side, out on the down side, giving the wheel continuous torque-------------Sam
Looks like Bessler's wheel had a crank shaft in the center of the wheel, just like the crank shaft on a gasoline engine. The cross-bar and rollers are double acting. When ever a cross-bar is vertical, it rotates the crank shaft. When ever they are horizontal, the crank shifts the rollers to one side. In on the up side, out on the down side, giving the wheel continuous torque-------------Sam
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Sam do you have a drawing of this idea below?
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Sam said
Bessler's wheel zeroed in; maybe.
Looks like Bessler's wheel had a crank shaft in the center of the wheel, just like the crank shaft on a gasoline engine. The cross-bar and rollers are double acting. When ever a cross-bar is vertical, it rotates the crank shaft. When ever they are horizontal, the crank shifts the rollers to one side. In on the up side, out on the down side, giving the wheel continuous torque-------------Sam
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Sam said
Bessler's wheel zeroed in; maybe.
Looks like Bessler's wheel had a crank shaft in the center of the wheel, just like the crank shaft on a gasoline engine. The cross-bar and rollers are double acting. When ever a cross-bar is vertical, it rotates the crank shaft. When ever they are horizontal, the crank shifts the rollers to one side. In on the up side, out on the down side, giving the wheel continuous torque-------------Sam
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Hi Norman, thanks for your interest.
Fletcher made an excellent schematic drawing of it, minus the crank shaft. Reference this thread p.110,Tues,Dec. 26,2023. I'm not smart enough to roll it forward. If you click on it it will double in size. The little red blue and green links go away,(not used), to be replaced by a double throw crank shaft like on a bicycle, except the throws would only be about 30 degrees apart, instead of 180,(on a bicycle). One pin of the crank engages the blue bar and the other one engages the green bar.
The weight of the vertical blue cross-bar and rollers, rotate the crank shaft, which shifts the green horizontal ones to one side, (in on the up side and out on the down side), giving the wheel continuous torque. At least that's what supposed to happen. As the wheel rotates the cross-bars alternate in there functions, and are double acting. So far I don't see any hooks.
Some how the ring & rollers restore GPE automatically. Please let me know if you have any questions----------Sam
Fletcher made an excellent schematic drawing of it, minus the crank shaft. Reference this thread p.110,Tues,Dec. 26,2023. I'm not smart enough to roll it forward. If you click on it it will double in size. The little red blue and green links go away,(not used), to be replaced by a double throw crank shaft like on a bicycle, except the throws would only be about 30 degrees apart, instead of 180,(on a bicycle). One pin of the crank engages the blue bar and the other one engages the green bar.
The weight of the vertical blue cross-bar and rollers, rotate the crank shaft, which shifts the green horizontal ones to one side, (in on the up side and out on the down side), giving the wheel continuous torque. At least that's what supposed to happen. As the wheel rotates the cross-bars alternate in there functions, and are double acting. So far I don't see any hooks.
Some how the ring & rollers restore GPE automatically. Please let me know if you have any questions----------Sam
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Bonjour Sam,
Ce que j'ai essayé dernièrement!
Les deux ensembles sont indépendant.
Hi Sam,
What I tried lately!
The two sets are independent.
Ce que j'ai essayé dernièrement!
Les deux ensembles sont indépendant.
Hi Sam,
What I tried lately!
The two sets are independent.
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Hi SHADOW,
Yes, that's a very good idea. I tried the same sort of thing in several different configurations. The pendulum does displace the rollers but, to do so, it has to swings backwards by some amount. What happens is, the weight of the pendulum exactly balances out the foreword torque of the rollers.
No mater what I tried every thing balanced out,(with a pend.) or, I don't know what to do to prevent it-------Sam
Yes, that's a very good idea. I tried the same sort of thing in several different configurations. The pendulum does displace the rollers but, to do so, it has to swings backwards by some amount. What happens is, the weight of the pendulum exactly balances out the foreword torque of the rollers.
No mater what I tried every thing balanced out,(with a pend.) or, I don't know what to do to prevent it-------Sam
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Sam!
J'ai fait un essai avec le pendule bloqué en partie centrale, de sorte que sa fonction soit annulé, les rouleaux sont excentrés.
Le pendule sert uniquement d'horizon artificiel en cas ou il devrait etre embarqué dans la roue comme Bessler!
Sam!
I tried the pendulum in the middle part, so that its function is cancelled, the rollers are out of center.
The pendulum serves only as an artificial horizon in case it should be embedded in the wheel like Bessler!
J'ai fait un essai avec le pendule bloqué en partie centrale, de sorte que sa fonction soit annulé, les rouleaux sont excentrés.
Le pendule sert uniquement d'horizon artificiel en cas ou il devrait etre embarqué dans la roue comme Bessler!
Sam!
I tried the pendulum in the middle part, so that its function is cancelled, the rollers are out of center.
The pendulum serves only as an artificial horizon in case it should be embedded in the wheel like Bessler!
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Hi SHADOW!!
You have it drawn perfectly! I think all 4 could be hooked together. However, I must be doing some thing wrong because, the pendulum would always swing to the left and exactly cancel out the positive torque of the rollers---Sam
You have it drawn perfectly! I think all 4 could be hooked together. However, I must be doing some thing wrong because, the pendulum would always swing to the left and exactly cancel out the positive torque of the rollers---Sam
Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
J'ai doublé le nombre de rouleaux!
I’ve doubled the number of rolls!
I’ve doubled the number of rolls!
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Awesome SHADOW!! How about 100 kilos each?? It could power a battle ship------------Sam
Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Bonjour Sam,
Une version ou seul l'ensemble harizontal est déplacé.
L'ensemble vertical est en equilibre par raport à la roue.
Hi Sam,
One version or only the whole harizontal is moved.
The vertical assembly is balanced by reference to the wheel.
Une version ou seul l'ensemble harizontal est déplacé.
L'ensemble vertical est en equilibre par raport à la roue.
Hi Sam,
One version or only the whole harizontal is moved.
The vertical assembly is balanced by reference to the wheel.
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
SHADOW,
All of them will be OOB. It doesn't matter if they are vertical, horizontal or, some where in between as long as they shift to one side, they will be OOB and, by the same amount. Thanks for all of your help and wonder full drawings------------Sam
All of them will be OOB. It doesn't matter if they are vertical, horizontal or, some where in between as long as they shift to one side, they will be OOB and, by the same amount. Thanks for all of your help and wonder full drawings------------Sam
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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
Sam I went back to post 100 and did not see a drawing. If you find it you can click on it and then on a computer but not a cell ph right click and copy the address and post it.
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https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/view ... 85#p204785Sam wrote:Reference this thread p.110
Read pg 110 Norman ..
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