Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel

[Sam Peppiatt]

I think the way to do it is with a single ring / drum in the center of the wheel. What's really needed is a short link or drag link, between the crank shaft pin and the roller. This would eliminate mechanical problems,(binding up), and take the weight of the roller off the crank pin and put it onto the ring, where it needs to be.

It's like a hamster in a cage. The crank shaft shifts / draws the roller to one side,(the crank shaft is on the center line). Then, like the hamster; the weight of the roller turns the wheel. A lot of people have tried to do this, they just didn't have the crank shaft. That's what was missing. I should add, the crank has a weighted lever to hold the roller continuously to one side---------------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

Update,
The new link is working good but, the ring can't be on the center line, best I can tell-------------------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

To clarify things,
If the rollers shift to one side of the wheel, it will turn in that direction. Looks like the best way to do that is with a crank shaft,(maybe the only way). However, the rollers are held too tightly / captivated by the pin. The introduction of a drag link, will allow the rollers to be loosely connected to the crank pin or throw.

This should make a big difference in the operation of the wheel, mainly because the weight of the roller is now on the ring and not on the crank shaft--------------Sam

[SHADOW]

Bonjour Sam,
Apres analyse des trajectoires de rouleaux, je me suis affranchis de l'utilité des anneaux!
Comme je le disais dans un précédent Post votre concept équivaut à utiliser un jouet forgeron.
le resultat est identique et votre contribution est primordiale pour le résolution de l'énigme!
Il reste à trouver la seconde utilisation de ce jouet.
Selon moi, il doit transferer l'action du poids ascendant au niveau de l'axe de rotation de la roue de sorte que seul le poids descendant ai une action sur la roue!
Mais cela reste une de mes turpitudes cerebrales!!!!!

Hello Sam,
After analysis of the roller trajectories, I have freed myself from the usefulness of the rings!
As I said in a previous post your concept is equivalent to using a toy blacksmith.
the result is identical and your contribution is essential for solving the puzzle!
The second use of this toy remains to be found.
In my opinion, it must transfer the action of the upward weight to the level of the axis of rotation of the wheel so that only the downward weight has an action on the wheel!
But it remains one of my cerebral turpitudes!!!

[SHADOW]

Deux bras

two arms

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi SHADOW,
Thank you for your interest, time and, consideration. You are the only one that cares any thing about it----------Sam

[SHADOW]

Sam,
Je ne suis pas le seul à m'intéresser à votre concept il suffit de noter le nombre de téléchargement que l'on partage!
Nous avons mis en évidence avec votre concept une piste pour résoudre l'énigme, encore un petit effort et espérons trouver une solution!

Sam,
I’m not the only one interested in your concept just note the number of downloads we share!
We have highlighted with your concept a clue to solve the puzzle, still a little effort and hope to find a solution!

[Sam Peppiatt]

HI SHADOW,
Nothing I can say will change anything-----------------------Sam

[SHADOW]

Cela confirme mon hypothèse qu'une trajectoire circulaire des poids ne peut pas être la bonne solution!
Il faut y ajouter autre chose pour espérer que cela fonctionne.

This confirms my hypothesis that a circular trajectory of the weights cannot be the right solution!
There is something else to add to hope that it will work.

[Sam Peppiatt]

SHADOW, you have really good ideas!
Go back to the two arms; it's a lot easer to evaluate. Cut the bar in halve, extend the pendulum arm up at 12. Then reconnect the bar,( now two links). This would reverse the swing of the pendulum. What would happen? Could you try that?

Or, would it screw every thing up, you know jamb up some way--------Sam

ETA Maybe there would be a problem with keeling, rats! Five weights below, three above.

[SHADOW]

Bonjour Sam,
J'ai essayé avec des anneaux ouverts, cela met en évidence que la barre à rouleaux est en équilibre sur la manivelle donc pas de rotation de roue possible à se stade de la recherche.
Il faut trouver un système qui reprend le poids ascendant pour appliquer la force de ce poids sur la direction de l'axe vertical de la roue.

Hello Sam,
I tried with open rings, this highlights that the roller bar is balanced on the crank so no wheel rotation possible at this stage of research.
It is necessary to find a system that takes the weight upward in order to apply the force of this weight on the direction of the vertical axis of the wheel.

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi SHADOW,
I'm beginning to understand, what you are saying. Maybe the computer doesn't know. Maybe it doesn't know that the rollers can cause the wheel to rotate, (when they are shifted to one side). Could that be possible? If it's not programed with this knowledge--------------------------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

Changes,
The new crankshafts will have a short link, that pulls the rollers along behind them (drag link). This insures that the weight of the roller is on the ring and not the crank pin, which is critical for the operation of it. I'll try to cross couple the conn. rods from the big center pendulum,(Reff. MT-13), to the crank shafts, as SHADOW suggested. If this would work; the pendulum will help turn the wheel, instead of canceling every thing out---------------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

Follow up,
I doubt if anyone knows what I'm talking about but, if you have ever tried connecting two crank shafts together, there can be a lot of problems at the dead center points-------------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

No, the center crank won't work. Bad idea------------------Sam