Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel
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Je pense qu'équilibre au départ égale équilibre à l'arrivée!
I think balance at the start equals balance at the finish!
I think balance at the start equals balance at the finish!
La propriété, c'est le vol!
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You could be right SHADOW. Georg has to show it running------------------Sam
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Update,
Getting close to trying it. To reiterate, the center drive roller rotates twice the speed of the wheel. With a reversing gear, it drives a jack shaft on the center line, opposite to the rotation of the wheel. Therefore; the rotation of the wheel adds one turn to it,(I think).
Which means that the roller chain and sprockets to the outer weights have to be reduced by three to one. 15 teeth on the center sprockets and 45 teeth on the outer ones. Which is good news,(it will give more leverage,(MA), for shifting the weights), except now I have to order new sprockets--------Sam
ETA Maybe it adds two turns; it's driving me crazy!!
Getting close to trying it. To reiterate, the center drive roller rotates twice the speed of the wheel. With a reversing gear, it drives a jack shaft on the center line, opposite to the rotation of the wheel. Therefore; the rotation of the wheel adds one turn to it,(I think).
Which means that the roller chain and sprockets to the outer weights have to be reduced by three to one. 15 teeth on the center sprockets and 45 teeth on the outer ones. Which is good news,(it will give more leverage,(MA), for shifting the weights), except now I have to order new sprockets--------Sam
ETA Maybe it adds two turns; it's driving me crazy!!
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Update, wheel not working. Have to find another way----------------Sam
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Oystein has given me an Idea.
I'm thinking that the prime mover,(Primum Movens), was a means or way to generate rotary motion on the wheel, in addition to or separate from it. Which was then used to shift the outer weights continuously.
The more I learn about it the less I know-----------------Sam
I'm thinking that the prime mover,(Primum Movens), was a means or way to generate rotary motion on the wheel, in addition to or separate from it. Which was then used to shift the outer weights continuously.
The more I learn about it the less I know-----------------Sam
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First off I don't know if it will work. It has not been tested.
However, the so called "Prime Mover" that I referred to; is a fairly simple arrangement of gears, roller chain and sprockets. A small transmission, if you will, mounted at the center of the wheel to supply constant rotary motion, (opposite to the rotation of the wheel), needed to shift / move the outer weights, at or near the rim of the wheel. It, the trans., is driven by a spur gear fixed to a shaft on the center line of the wheel, The odd thing is, the shaft is fixed to the wheel and turned by the wheel.
I guess you could say the non mover becomes the moved. The outer weights will be inverted,(they can flip from side to side), to reverse the direction of rotation--------Sam
However, the so called "Prime Mover" that I referred to; is a fairly simple arrangement of gears, roller chain and sprockets. A small transmission, if you will, mounted at the center of the wheel to supply constant rotary motion, (opposite to the rotation of the wheel), needed to shift / move the outer weights, at or near the rim of the wheel. It, the trans., is driven by a spur gear fixed to a shaft on the center line of the wheel, The odd thing is, the shaft is fixed to the wheel and turned by the wheel.
I guess you could say the non mover becomes the moved. The outer weights will be inverted,(they can flip from side to side), to reverse the direction of rotation--------Sam
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Sam you most likely lost count of how many things you have build by now , experuments and builds is bread and butter for fact checking , you are among the members who believe enough to try real experiments , not all of us build or experiment as frequent as yourself , so just some words of complimenting you for sticking to what you believe enough to get your hands dirty.
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Hi jb!! Thanks. You are right, too many dead ducks; far to many, I have lost count. But, it's all I have to go on--Sam
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Sometimes you play the cards your dealt and sometimes you fold them , you do you .
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jb,
I think you are right. There are a lot of similarities to a card game. I guess what you are saying, all of you are professionals and I'm a novice. I should fold my hand a get out of the game. You are probably right------------Sam
I think you are right. There are a lot of similarities to a card game. I guess what you are saying, all of you are professionals and I'm a novice. I should fold my hand a get out of the game. You are probably right------------Sam
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Bonjour Sam,
Tu n'as pas moins de valeur que tout les Pontifes de la science établie.
Tu es un chercheur de PM au même titre que tous les intervenants de ce site.
Ta démarche ne manque pas de bon sens contrairement a certains hurluberlus qui introduise certaines théories plus ou moins fumantes!!
Hello Sam,
You are no less valuable than all the Pontiffs of established science.
You are a PM researcher as well as all the other stakeholders on this site.
Your approach does not lack common sense contrary to some hurluberlus who introduce certain theories more or less smoky!
Tu n'as pas moins de valeur que tout les Pontifes de la science établie.
Tu es un chercheur de PM au même titre que tous les intervenants de ce site.
Ta démarche ne manque pas de bon sens contrairement a certains hurluberlus qui introduise certaines théories plus ou moins fumantes!!
Hello Sam,
You are no less valuable than all the Pontiffs of established science.
You are a PM researcher as well as all the other stakeholders on this site.
Your approach does not lack common sense contrary to some hurluberlus who introduce certain theories more or less smoky!
La propriété, c'est le vol!
P.J. PROUDHON
P.J. PROUDHON
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Well that is the problem right there; I was playing darts.I should fold my hand a get out of the game. You are probably right------------Sam
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I'm starting to get the feeling I've been playing Tiddly-winks for a long time now !
I'm starting to get the feeling I've been playing Tiddly-winks for a long time now !
Have had the solution to Bessler's Wheel approximately monthly for over 30 years ! But next month is "The One" !
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A follow up. Most of the cards I get are blank or are all marked jokers--------------Sam