Solving Besseler wheel by brute force?

[GravityToRotation]

This idea popped in my mind, and even through it is only rough concept, I would like to share it with you.

If we start with premise, that working gravity wheel can exist, then it necessarily follows:
1) There is only finite number of possible configuration of mechanisms in wheel. So if we try them systematically, we have to find working one.
2) There is only finite number of words in any language. If we combine them systematically, we have to find description of working wheel.
3) There is only finite number of possible drawings of wheel. If we try to draw them systematically, we have to find one that shows inside of working wheel.

Good thing with this approach is that success is guaranteed. Bad thing is that date of success is absolutely unknown. But if there would be a way, how to reasonably reduce number of obviously unworking cases (like excluding words that surely will not appear in description of gravity wheel) and how to test results reasonably fast, maybe this could be the way to uncover secret of Besseler’s wheel.

[Fletcher]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

Infinite monkeys sitting at infinite typewriters ( ok, let's update that to computers ) can produce the works of Shakespeare theorem ..

Fortunately we live in interesting times and probably won't have to wait for the monkeys to crack the nut and design a working Bessler's wheel ..

If we can't figure it out for ourselves then consider AI is improving in exponential leaps and bounds - maybe in a year or two it will have the access and be smart enough to read and understand everything online including this discussion board and everything written and translated about Bessler and his wheels - having digested and remembered that at lightening speed, and with it's own brand of artificial intelligence, do the monkey work for us so that it is just days away ..

[thx4]

Fortunately, this will never happen, and that's easy to understand. I work with several AIs every day, and it's very useful to me, I save an incredible amount of time in areas where I'm a little lighter, but that's all I want to say...
An AI will never discover anything or file a single patent, and that's just as well.
To cut a long story short, humans have the ability to take a leap into the unknown for a few seconds (a very small number), that's the inventor (description too long here) ... AI remains and will remain forever in the known, the association is not neuronal and that's a fundamental difference, it will remain a tool like any other, period. As far as we're concerned, there's nothing to expect from this bug, apart from the interpretation of certain sketches and various translations.
I'm convinced we're wasting our time with what B could have left us. The only thing to believe is that he really has built a self-sustaining machine, at least for a while. That's the real revelation.
I'm like you Fletcher, I've got a few ideas, the difficulty here is distribution.

[johannesbender]

Fortunately, this will never happen, and that's easy to understand. I work with several AIs every day, and it's very useful to me, I save an incredible amount of time in areas where I'm a little lighter, but that's all I want to say...
An AI will never discover anything or file a single patent, and that's just as well.
To cut a long story short, humans have the ability to take a leap into the unknown for a few seconds (a very small number), that's the inventor (description too long here) ... AI remains and will remain forever in the known, the association is not neuronal and that's a fundamental difference, it will remain a tool like any other, period. As far as we're concerned, there's nothing to expect from this bug, apart from the interpretation of certain sketches and various translations.
I'm convinced we're wasting our time with what B could have left us. The only thing to believe is that he really has built a self-sustaining machine, at least for a while. That's the real revelation.
I'm like you Fletcher, I've got a few ideas, the difficulty here is distribution.

Well said.

[thx4]

Thanks JB, I just wanted to add that AI as described in the media is a bubble that will burst in mid-air, like all the speculative bubbles we've already experienced.
One thing is clear: AI doesn't understand anything, it knows.
You can give it oil, an egg, mustard and I forgot the salt, but if it's never heard of mayonnaise, nothing will happen. It'll just suggest why not paint?
Getting her to accept the concept of perpetual motion is a long way off.
You could say “imagine”, but no, imagination has no limits, she does.

[daxwc]

Fletcher: If we can't figure it out for ourselves then consider AI is improving in exponential leaps and bounds - maybe in a year or two it will have the access and be smart enough to read and understand everything online including this discussion board and everything written and translated about Bessler and his wheels - having digested and remembered that at lightening speed, and with it's own brand of artificial intelligence, do the monkey work for us so that it is just days away ..

We are already there; you just haven’t been allowed access to it. The better the AI the more you will have to pay. If you want one that can reason and be sentient will only be available to the few.

Musk tried to keep AI open; but it isn't like he is giving his away for free either.

Soon you will be able to buy a robot with AI but you will need to buy the AP to run it. For example the maid robot AP is 13999.00 with free WIFI upgrades for life.

[Sam Peppiatt]

I'm afraid I'm stuck with the monkey----------------Sam

[johannesbender]

This is a golden age of technology though , quantum computing is a reality and Microsoft introduced their chip https://youtu.be/Q4xCR20Dh1E

[daxwc]

I just tried Grok 3 for the first time the other day. I was impressed and it got rid of the "social engineering".

[johannesbender]

Daxwc i used it too , my most noted thing is the speed seems better than cgpt but it could perhaps drop as even more people use it i dont know i will see , anyway the way i see it we are living in an era of super progression in the fields of ai and computing , the computing lacked a bit but seems like its going to get a boost soon , its crazy how many things will change in the future , but we must not forge about the best power available to us - the brain.