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I did some investigation into besslers coding. I managed to decode his secret.its a numerical Joke.the secret is to be found on the page in MT .he made a drawing in invisible ink
On the page marked no12.on the foto of the originaliteit is a faint figur to see.sombody should look this page with UV light.
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A lot of the pages have similar smudges on them. MT1 for example. Invisible ink has been around since at least ancient Greece. It is a possibility there are other messages in invisible ink, and there are some good reasons he might have employed its use. While I would be very interested in the outcome of an investigation by UV light, IMO it would a be more likely there wouldn't be much to be seen.

Could you explain your resolution to the MT code?
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The drawings he talkt about in AP are 13.47.78.when adding them up you get 138 ( the sign with handgrips).then i SAW something strange: he did not use the numbers 2,5,6,9.so at this point in AP he mentiond (genug we the feind klug)so i think 138-25-96=17 and 138-52-69=17 .this is 2 times 17.rings a bel!!!!.i think tis is the path .the Reich has 4 kingdoms.3 we know now kingdom as methaphore for drawing.we stil mis one.
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This is the page marked with "12".
https://orka.bibliothek.uni-kassel.de/v ... pDocAnchor

Correct?
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This is correct
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I had a topic on this about the front of that page with a figure i found on the right hand side , but i cant remember the name of the topic or where i posted it , i would have to search for it and post it here later .

However i also had a different topic on the watermark/markings i found on the back of that page too (i think it was the back of that page) , and i had the topic up for this on John Collins sub forum here viewtopic.php?t=8471

Which contained these 2 screen recordings showing me highlighting the markings for everyone to see :
https://imgur.com/PoTAujo
https://imgur.com/rEL1I1E

And for those who aren't members of John Collins sub forum here , there's 2 pdf's attached here of that topic too.
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I cant find the reply or topic , but this is an image of where i found the figure on the front of that page , it basically was like a vertical bar attached to a horizontal bar with some holes at each end and perhaps something angular (something like that) , good luck .
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Kattla:
This is the page marked with "12".
https://orka.bibliothek.uni-kassel.de/v ... pDocAnchor
Correct?
These sheets with the numbers are not done by Bessler.

On the blank divider pages:
One must know that Strieder was not only an author, but also librarian, archivist and an employee of Carl's grandson's. He started doing research on Bessler because he had been asked to do so by the king. The papers called Orffyreana are the result of Strieders attempts to find old documents in Kassel's castle, where they had survived without being remembered or catalogized. Strieder built the Orffyreana from what he digged from the dust, and later wrote the basic account on Bessler using this material.
So the blank pages with the numbers were put there by about 40 years later, Strieder took all the material divided them into sections and bindeded them into the book Orffyraeana.

Knowing that why would a divider page hold any clues?
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Pour aller dans le sens de Daxwc, on peut voir sur la page 26-9v un transfert de contact de la page 62-27v.
De même pour les dessins du moulin on peut voir ces transferts d'encre sur des pages déplacées, dans la chronologie du document.

To go in the direction of Daxwc, we can see on page 26-9v a contact transfer from page 62-27v.
Likewise for the drawings of the mill one can see these transfers of ink on displaced pages, in the chronology of the document.
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