the burning intuition

[coylo]

Maybe its just me, or maybe I'm not alone.
I'm well aware of the laws of thermodynamics from my studies in physics, and that in this give and take world of compromise - that you don't get something for nothing.
But within the very foundation of my soul, something is telling me that perpetual motion is possible and that the classic overbalanced-gravity wheel is the solution. Although the answer to this problem has eluded me for the past year, I never lose hope, I always find time for one last try.

And should someone find the solution before me, I'll give credit, where credit is due and confide in the fact that my intuition; that my gut instinct never let me down.

Does anyone else share the same vocation?
I'm tired of this world choking on fossil fuels...........................................

[PIMAN]

I must agree. It is something I have always known. Perhaps it is encoded in our DNA. Skeptics look at the concept of PM as some sort of voodoo black magic. I know of something even more impossibly magical that all skeptics conveniently overlook... WE ARE INTELLIGENT ENTITIES RESIDING ON A ROCKY SPHERE THAT IS FLOATING IN A SEEMINGLY INFINITE VACUUM FILLED WITH ZERO POINT ENERGY SOURCES WE CALL SUNS WHICH BROADCAST LIGHT THAT MIRACULOUSLY CONDITIONS THE ENVIRONMENT TO ALLOW FOR LIFE TO EXIST. Next to this, PM hardly seems too 'far out'. Next time a skeptic gets you down, remind them of this miracle in which we live, and don't be shocked if they start to change their tune.

Peace.

[MrTim]

Only been at it for a year, eh?
Been at it for 15 myself.
Throw the math stuff out the window. It's all going to turn out to be a first-semester physics problem when it's found. Hands-on experimentation, process of elimination, imagination, luck, etc. SIMPLE PHYSICS.
Weights and levers.
Simple machines that are not so simple to understand. (The entry in an encyclopedia really doesn't even begin to explain them.) And you can do complex things with them....

[Neo]

Must agree with you both,

The answer is staring at us in the face, at the very tip of our tongues. I believe as MrTim does that this device will be a simple mechanical contrivance...we will all laugh out and say those magic words " I thought of that! Damned!"

[bbing]

Couldn't agree more with the posts above. In my mind a gravity wheel is as sensible as the the movement of the heavenly bodies. Don't tell them it's impossible. Build a few models of your best ideas and watch carefully what happens when you shift things around. I'm not there yet but what I have today is closer than when I started. The Wright brothers couldn't design a wing that worked until they questioned conventional wisdom and did experiments to discover the truth.

[epistemologicide]

what are peoples opinions of zero point here?

since naudin has replicated the meg, with a c.o.p of 1.75 as opposed to beardons claims, dosent that proove that zero point energy does infact exist?

[Oxygon]

I agree, It's a gut feeling... I have yet to build a model...
And prove my research, but... "they all say that?" Right...

[Lightwave]

well i dont believe anything till i see it and understand it....
but yes a gut feeling is there, I believe energy can not be created or destroyed but can be converted from one form to another...
energy everywhere and i think its all free. Einstein said "the mass of a body is a measure of its energy content."

[epistemologicide]

well, if enfact its zero pont that we are speaking would this be a good place to start

http://www.intalek.com/Papers/Handout3.pdf

there is so much more to grasp in this though
can any one make any sense of this?

http://www.intalek.com/Index/Index.htm

[Jeff]

If you think about the earth, sun, and moon, their movements and the ocean tides caused by those movements, you will see gravity does provide a perpetual source of power. All we have to do is figure out how to replace the earth with an axle, the moon and sun with weights at the rim, and the water with large weights near the axle. Instead of gravity pulling the water outward, we must devise a system of levers to duplicate this. Instead of the moon revolving completely around the earth we must substitute serveral "moons" that revolve a short arc. Instead of the moon held in place by gravity and centrifugal (?) force, we must hold the rim weights in place by a mechanical connection. I think Bessler achieved this arrangement and the "water" caused the rotation of the wheel.
Jeff

[Jonathan]

No Jeff, the solar system isn't PM. They proved with observations that the moon is receding from the earth, because it is doing the work of pulling those tides around. I for one do see a distinct lack of choas in the solar system, suggesting that gravity might have anti-entropic properties. Sure there are a bazillion things wizzing around out there, but it is hard to ignore the fact that there would be far more disorder if the earth spontaneously exploded, but it doesn't.

[John Lindsay]

Yes, for me it has always been a gut instinct feeling that "somehow" it could be done and when I read the chapter in the book -Oddities- about Bessler years ago, my feelings were confirmed. I remember thinking about pm when I was a child and around 8 years old? coming up with the fan blowing the fan dealy with different gear ratios. :0) John

[Michael]

Jonathan;

You're confusing chaos with entropy. Entropy Is not chaos. It is order. Gravity, or gravitas...IS entropy.

Mike

[Jonathan]

Yes, entropy is the measure of order. Regardless, what I meant by anti-entropic was anti-second-law-of-thermodynamics, but I didn't want to write that monster.

[Michael]

Okay-sorry Jon. Just wanted to clarify.

Mike