jimkelly/Ralph
Do you really expect us to believe this Goddamned Crap?
It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than trying to solely profit
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re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
Well, you didn't say otherwise Jim, so it would seem that your trouble actually is with the exact shape of the 'forgotten cam ramp'.
How can a specific ramp slope have such a narrow margin for error? What makes your ramp so different compared to the thousands of previous similar attempts that resulted in failure?
How can a specific ramp slope have such a narrow margin for error? What makes your ramp so different compared to the thousands of previous similar attempts that resulted in failure?
re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
Ovyyus,
Your statement:
So why was I attracted to James Kelly's version to start with, and why can I not let it rest. It's because of your statement above, "unusual shape"
I have never came across another like it. And it keeps telling me it will work. I play with it and then walk away in a day or two I am back at it.
And that is all can say.
Ralph
Your statement:
Having been around Bessler's history and gravity wheels for a number of years I have well learned the statement of "You can not exchange hight for length. I did not agree to build Kelly's machine with my eyes closed and no forethought.I fail to see how any 'normal' ramp curvature shape could solve the problem. Perhaps it's a more unusual shape, like sawtooth shaped, where the weight is made to experience free-fall periodically during it's ramp transition? ... or whatever?
So why was I attracted to James Kelly's version to start with, and why can I not let it rest. It's because of your statement above, "unusual shape"
I have never came across another like it. And it keeps telling me it will work. I play with it and then walk away in a day or two I am back at it.
And that is all can say.
Ralph
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re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
Ralph...
I have had many designs that kept "telling" me they would work too. I do hope that the one you are working on is not like the ones I tried!
ken
I have had many designs that kept "telling" me they would work too. I do hope that the one you are working on is not like the ones I tried!
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
Have moved everything back to square one on the wheel and am prepairing for the next try to generate a toothpick's worth of force.
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
Robert.. So it was a no-go with the new "toothpick force" mechanism?
The limits of the possible can only be defined by going beyond them into the impossible.
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Seawasp,
The "new" one you refer to, is the one I'm just getting around to preparing the wheel for...
The "new" one you refer to, is the one I'm just getting around to preparing the wheel for...
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
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james kelly
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re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
People tend to only believe what they understand. That's a shame! because, sometimes that is damn little. jim kelly
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Belief is for fairy cakes. I don't want to believe, I want to know.
Help me understand, Jim.
Help me understand, Jim.
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re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
BILL; Everything that I said, and much more are matters of public record. Magazine articles, Newspaper articles, NHRA newspapers, Hotrod Magazine 1964. Engineering news, 1966.
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Jim...
I know you want to remain secretive about your design. But, can you tell us if it is self-starting or does it require an initial input of torque to increase the speed of its parts so that they generate CF. In other words, is the design dependent in someway upon CF for its operation? Would you say CF assists or hinders its performance?
ken
I know you want to remain secretive about your design. But, can you tell us if it is self-starting or does it require an initial input of torque to increase the speed of its parts so that they generate CF. In other words, is the design dependent in someway upon CF for its operation? Would you say CF assists or hinders its performance?
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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I can understand how after building a few PM wheels over a period of years (one even made from 44 gallon drums filled with concrete) that you can't remember the last little critical bit to get it going James.
Why just yesterday I forgot how to drive, but don't worry, its come back to me.
Why just yesterday I forgot how to drive, but don't worry, its come back to me.
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jim,
I happen to have all the issues of Hot Rod Magazine for the years 1961 Mar-Dec, to Oct 1968.
Where is the information you refer to? What month, page, &c?
I happen to have all the issues of Hot Rod Magazine for the years 1961 Mar-Dec, to Oct 1968.
Where is the information you refer to? What month, page, &c?
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
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re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
1964 YEAR BOOK 1964
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ALL OF THEM are self starters. Centrifugal force has no effect. speed is part of the power. To increase the power, all you have to do is allow it to run faster.