Osama's Message to America!

[AgingYoung]

We still have troops in Germany and Japan (and around the world) that have been stationed there since ww2.

I wouldn't surprise me if Rather directed the details of that forgery yet at a minimum he failed journalism 101 by not checking his source.

Whatever the world thinks of America they still buy our debt. They'll never collect the principle unless world currencies drastically change in relative values. Revelation talks about a day when a man will work all day just for the food that he needs to sustain his life.

How long can we continue to do this? Who knows...

I don't know how long but it might look something like that when it comes crashing down.

Gene

ps edit: Also, no matter what the world thinks of America, we comprise 40% of the world's economy. If you want to say, 'to hell with America' you might consider that actually means 'to hell with the world.' When America crashes the world crashes. World leaders don't have the intellectual ability to handle America crashing and not having their own economies suffer drastically. They're not that smart.

[Jonathan]

Ken, the prophecy was at least 5 years too long.

[ken_behrendt]

Jonathan...

I assume by what you wrote that you are saying that Osama actually declared "war" on the USA with the first, unsuccessful attack of the WTC towers?

Well, I am fairly sure that I read that Osama did not "officially" declare war on us until the summer of 1998 when he mentioned it to some reporter.

In any event, I remember that whenever I looked at the WTC twin towers, they always reminded me of a giant number 11. I think that Osama became fascinated with their appearance and similarity to this number and that was one of the reasons they were singled out for an attack. If one doubles 11, then one gets 22. This is again related to the Washington Prophecy of a 222 year time period!


ken

[Jonathan]

Ken, if I murder someone today and announce my hate for him tomorrow, then when did the murder happen?
>unsuccessful attack of the WTC towers?<
You do realize that the bomb weighed 600kg, that it murdered six people, injured 1000, and cut out the power, phone, and TV for most of NYC?

The attack happened in Feb 1993; Feb=2, 1+9+9+3=22 oooooooh!

[terry5732]

Is there a page 222 in MT?

[ovyyus]

LOL - maybe MT111 is half the answer!

[ken_behrendt]

Jonathan wrote:

The attack happened in Feb 1993; Feb=2, 1+9+9+3=22 oooooooh!

Wow! Even I, amateur numerologist that I am, missed that one!!!

Well, that just goes to show that al Qaeda is obsessed with the number 222 and is incorporating it into the timing of their attacks.

Now we have a new treat that has been delivered in the latest Osama audio tape and February 22nd is right around the corner! I predict that a few days before that date, the US government will ratchet up our security threat level color to Orange (High Danger) or maybe even Red (Attack Imminent)!

This should be interesting, but the question is where will the attack come? If it occurs on Washington's birthday, then I would expect it to take place in Washington, D.C.

So, I've made that prediction here...let's see if (hopefully NOT) I am correct...


ken

[Trev]

You mean - Al CIA duh! :)

[Joel Wright]

Never mind I took a second look and found them.

LOL - maybe MT111 is half the answer!

Whatever happened to MT 110 and MT111 any way?Now that you brought it to my attention Bill.

[ovyyus]

Right between MT109 and 112, where they should be :)

http://www.orffyre.com/mt101-120.html

MT110, 111, 112 and 113 are all on one page.

[ken_behrendt]

There was an interesting tidbit in the news last week. Apparently, the president of France, Jacques Chirac, gave a press conference in which he stated that France "reserves" the "right" to respond with "unconventional" weapons against any "state" that it (France) holds responsible for an attack on France. The comment was in reference to a possible attack on France with a WMD by a terrorist group.

That comment about an "unconventional" weapon response caught my attention because, most likely, he was talking about using a nuclear weapon to respond against another country that the French thought might have sponsored the terrorists that launched the attack against France. Well, that's very strong language for the French who have always tried to downplay their possession and possible usage of their nuclear weapons.

I've heard that the French have a very reliable intelligence network in place in countries like Syria, Iran, etc. I am wondering what information the French recently acquired that would make them issue a statement like that? In other words, what do they now know that we do not yet know?

Meanwhile someone told me that they heard that the Iranian's were boasting that they could have a simple nuclear "device" ready for testing as early as this March!

I think that, despite the smoke screen of trying to enrich their own uranium for civilian power generation, the Iranian government is now engaged in a crash program to acquire nuclear weapons as soon as possible. The United States, Britain, and Israel will, of course, do whatever it takes to prevent that from happening. This is starting to look scary...


ken

[AgingYoung]

Ken,

I don't doubt the French's intel network; they're in bed with anyone that will join them.

Meanwhile someone told me that they heard that the Iranian's were boasting that they could have a simple nuclear "device" ready for testing as early as this March!

A while ago I heard a report that a plane with soviet scientists crashed near Tehran. I just searched the net and confirmed that story in Pravda (dateline: 18:43 2003-01-10).

Ukrainian Antonov-140 plane slammed into a mountain while landing at the airport of the Iranian city of Isfahan. The plane was carrying leading aviation specialists of Russia and Ukraine. Forty-four people died as a result of the crash. Iranian specialists said that the tragedy happened over a pilotÂ’s mistake. ITAR-TASS news agency reported, Iran had already apologized for its premature statements about the crash.

Although it's reported that the scientists were 'leading aviation specialists' I wouldn't trust Pravda to fill in the unknown details. The arabic soviet link has been detailed quite a few times and I'd suspect that the soviets are helping them develop their nuclear capability. Because of my interest in the Bible and specifically it's prophetic nature my ears perk up when I read about these things.

A little while ago you mentioned that people that study end times aren't interested in finding a solution and might even be the cause of these events. I might be misquoting you there in that paraphrase. I don't feel personally responsible for world events and I don't know what I could do that would stop them. The best I think I can do is prepare for disaster and hope a nuke doesn't land on my head. Even if a nuke lands on my head I've taken the wager that Pascal offered to heart and imagine I'm prepared for the reckoning. As I've often said we'll see.

Gene

[ken_behrendt]

Gene wrote:

A little while ago you mentioned that people that study end times aren't interested in finding a solution and might even be the cause of these events. I might be misquoting you there in that paraphrase. I don't feel personally responsible for world events and I don't know what I could do that would stop them.

I do not remember exactly what I said, but I think my point may have been that the danger in promoting long disproved prophecies as though they are imminent is that the prophecies can take on a life of there own and might even become "self-fulfilling" if enough people start to take them seriously.

For example, I recently found out that there are various Christian fundamentalists in the USA that are pouring millions of dollars into the elections taking place in Israel. They try to assure that only right wing people will get elected and in control of the state. They are hoping that by doing this, the result will eventually be the re-establishment of the ancient kindom of Israel!

Apparently, they believe that, according to Bible prophecies (their interpretations, of course), Jesus can not return to Earth with a Second Coming until ancient Israel is restored and the Battle of Armageddon takes place.

Well, if the present government of Israel tried to actually re-establish the ancient kingdom of Israel, then they would have to deport about 2.2 million Palestinians. That would, most likely, lead to a very ugly war in the Middle East that could kill tens or hundreds of thousands of people and would, inevitably, drag the USA into the mess.

Yes, I think prophecies can be dangerous...especially when they are mishandled.


ken

[AgingYoung]

Ken,

There's no mention of the idea of 'ancient Israel being restored' in prophecy that I'm aware of. What you may be thinking about is:

Eze 20:34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

Israel's independence was re-established in 1948. After the fall of Jerusalem in 70ad hebrew languished into a dead language; something like greek. There's a prophecy that the language would be restored also. Today the official language of Israel is hebrew. I think that's the only case in history where a language has fallen out of use to the point it has been considered dead then came back into use.

Gene

[ken_behrendt]

I suspect that a lot of the Christian fundamentalist groups that are funding many Israeli right-wing political candidates have reached the conclusion that Jesus can not return until certain required preliminary prophecies have been fulfilled.

One of them would be the restoration of the ancient Kindgom of Israel. Next would be the reconstruction of the Temple which the Gospels imply Jesus will rule the Earth from during the millenium just prior to the establishment of God's Kingdom on Earth.

I think I remember hearing or reading that there are also Jewish groups in Israel that are expecting an earthquake that will demolish the Dome of the Rock mosque that is currently sitting right on top of where the pyre used for burnt offering once resided in front of the original Temple. My fear is that some extremists over there might decide to give nature a helping hand with some dynamite. I can only imagine the reaction of the surrounding muslim countries if the third holiest site in their religion was blow up!


ken