Yes Gene, I agree wholeheatedly with that precaution.
I was just wondering if a response from them could have been had, without having to approach them with what is in effect, a "fake i.d." of "potential investor".
Perhaps someone should try?
robert
Another gravity wheel?
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re: Another gravity wheel?
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re: Another gravity wheel?
Robert...
I think Jim's description of himself as a "potential investor" is not really that deceptive. I mean, I'm sure that if he was really impressed by what information that they provided him with, then he might actually want to invest in their device. But, obviously, this is not going to be the case. When one starts getting back poorly written emails filled with "techno babble", then it's time to look elsewhere for promising new technologies to invest in.
ken
I think Jim's description of himself as a "potential investor" is not really that deceptive. I mean, I'm sure that if he was really impressed by what information that they provided him with, then he might actually want to invest in their device. But, obviously, this is not going to be the case. When one starts getting back poorly written emails filled with "techno babble", then it's time to look elsewhere for promising new technologies to invest in.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Re: re: Another gravity wheel?
Ken, yes hello,jim_mich wrote:Ken,
I did not say that I was thinking of investing! The "potential investor" is a carrot on a stick to pry some technical information out of them.
However, upon questioning from you, the above response was elicited, which, if words have meaning, it seems his intent was not to invest or to even think about investing, but to trick something out of them?
Just respectfully asking a question.
robert
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Robert...
Well, I can not really speak for Jim. Despite what his initial intentions may or may not have been, I'm sure that his purpose was only to obtain more information, whether good or bad, about the company so that others here could decide whether or not they wanted to get involved with them and risk their investment money with them. I'm sure that if someone emails them and starts out by saying that they consider them to be a scam that they would not invest a dime in their project, then the chances of them getting a response would probably be next to zero.
ken
Well, I can not really speak for Jim. Despite what his initial intentions may or may not have been, I'm sure that his purpose was only to obtain more information, whether good or bad, about the company so that others here could decide whether or not they wanted to get involved with them and risk their investment money with them. I'm sure that if someone emails them and starts out by saying that they consider them to be a scam that they would not invest a dime in their project, then the chances of them getting a response would probably be next to zero.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
re: Another gravity wheel?
that site may be kinda like this
$ MONEY $
It Can Buy You A House
But Not A Home
It Can Buy You A Bed
But Not Sleep
It Can Buy You A Clock
But Not Time
It Can Buy You A Book
But Not Knowledge
It Can Buy You A Position
But Not Respect
It Can Buy You Medicine
But Not Health
It Can Buy You Blood
But Not Life
It Can Buy You A Partner
But Not A Friend
So You See Money Isn't Everything.
I Tell You This Because I Am Your Friend.
You Know You Can Trust Me.
And As Your Friend I Want To
Take Away Your Pain And Suffering.
So,
Send Me All Your Money
And I Will Suffer For You.
A Truer Friend Than Me You Will Not Find.
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$ MONEY $
It Can Buy You A House
But Not A Home
It Can Buy You A Bed
But Not Sleep
It Can Buy You A Clock
But Not Time
It Can Buy You A Book
But Not Knowledge
It Can Buy You A Position
But Not Respect
It Can Buy You Medicine
But Not Health
It Can Buy You Blood
But Not Life
It Can Buy You A Partner
But Not A Friend
So You See Money Isn't Everything.
I Tell You This Because I Am Your Friend.
You Know You Can Trust Me.
And As Your Friend I Want To
Take Away Your Pain And Suffering.
So,
Send Me All Your Money
And I Will Suffer For You.
A Truer Friend Than Me You Will Not Find.
CASH ONLY PLEASE.
the uneducated
if your gona be dumb you gota be tough
Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
if your gona be dumb you gota be tough
Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
re: Another gravity wheel?
When you fill out their email contact form they list three catagories: 'Investor', 'Technical contact' and 'Other'. Since I buy and sell many thousands of dollars worth of stocks most every day I figure I qualify as an investor.
re: Another gravity wheel?
I sent an email to Gravity One and here it is with their reply on top.
Pascal could have said more, but then again, he could have just blown it off....
Maybe someone could ask for technical information with the "other" block checked. Well, I don't know.
Dear Robert,
Thank you for your encouragements.
We have the chance to work on a fascinating subject which can a lot bring to the humanity.
Receive a friendly thought of Cannes.
Best regards
Pascal BOYER
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: <contact@gravity-one.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject:
>
>
>
> Your name: Robert
>
> Your email:
>
> Company:
>
> Address:
>
> USA
>
> Telephone:
>
> Type : Other
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> Comment: Actually, I am getting tired of paying so much for even coal in the wintertime, and electricity year long, that I'm just interested in how
these kinds of projects are going, and when there will be some benefit
realized from them.
> Good luck. We need more people like you trying to solve the energy
problems that are just getting worse every year.
> Thank you,
> Robert
>
Pascal could have said more, but then again, he could have just blown it off....
Maybe someone could ask for technical information with the "other" block checked. Well, I don't know.
Dear Robert,
Thank you for your encouragements.
We have the chance to work on a fascinating subject which can a lot bring to the humanity.
Receive a friendly thought of Cannes.
Best regards
Pascal BOYER
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: <contact@gravity-one.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject:
>
>
>
> Your name: Robert
>
> Your email:
>
> Company:
>
> Address:
>
> USA
>
> Telephone:
>
> Type : Other
>
> Comment: Actually, I am getting tired of paying so much for even coal in the wintertime, and electricity year long, that I'm just interested in how
these kinds of projects are going, and when there will be some benefit
realized from them.
> Good luck. We need more people like you trying to solve the energy
problems that are just getting worse every year.
> Thank you,
> Robert
>
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re: Another gravity wheel?
Robert...
Well, it's nice that they gave you a "friendly thought", but that doesn't tell us anything about how their device is supposed to work. Yes, someone is going to have to check the box requesting "technical" information...
ken
Well, it's nice that they gave you a "friendly thought", but that doesn't tell us anything about how their device is supposed to work. Yes, someone is going to have to check the box requesting "technical" information...
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
re: Another gravity wheel?
Guys,
I stumbled onto a website today that says it is the first built gravity wheel. If you click on the illustration, it has a HUGE wheel that the man has built.
The website states:
Here is the link. also check out the illustration pictures:
http://www.bixis.com/mouvementperpetuel ... otion.html
Does anyone know anything about this?
Preston.
I stumbled onto a website today that says it is the first built gravity wheel. If you click on the illustration, it has a HUGE wheel that the man has built.
The website states:
It says it operates on CONSERVATION OF ENERGY Through the theory of reversibility.It is a case of perpetual motion requiring no external energy, it operates in closed circuit, it is the first gravitational engine.
Here is the link. also check out the illustration pictures:
http://www.bixis.com/mouvementperpetuel ... otion.html
Does anyone know anything about this?
Preston.
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It's a monster wheel.
Gene
edit:
Three things stood out as I looked over that site:
Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:01:12 PM
It's a monster wheel.
Gene
edit:
Three things stood out as I looked over that site:
- A half rotation by hand is required to load the wheel.
- So that the wheel can produce, not just for itself, but also for requirements, it is necessary to double the number of mechanisms and the circumference of the wheel...
- The pictures of the inventor don't show him smiling.
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re: Another gravity wheel?
Hi Preston.
This is the thing Eric Krieg went to France to test. It didn't work, in fact he spent most of the day with some other testers trying to tweek the wheel as per the inventors orders. I posted the information about it here quite a qhile ago and with some searching you should be able to find it. There are pictures of Eric as well as they come from him.
This is the thing Eric Krieg went to France to test. It didn't work, in fact he spent most of the day with some other testers trying to tweek the wheel as per the inventors orders. I posted the information about it here quite a qhile ago and with some searching you should be able to find it. There are pictures of Eric as well as they come from him.
re: Another gravity wheel?
This is Aldo Costa's (in)famous wheel. Search the old discussion board for Aldo Costa. (especially here.)
It is an impressive construction indeed, but does not work as advertised.
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It is an impressive construction indeed, but does not work as advertised.
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re: Another gravity wheel?
Im at school so I have so free time. I looked at the design and he fell into the same trap as all, up till now. A weight cant be lifted to its original place once started in motion because of gravity. I still agree with this although I found a way around it, thanks to besslers drawings. I contacted the owner of wm2d without telling him specifics of my design he assured me it is real to life......even the army is using it to test clearances for their rockets. IMO both sides are right about PM.
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OMG! Wm2d is a very nice program, but it sure has its bugs!I contacted the owner of wm2d...he assured me it is real to life......even the army is using it to test clearances for their rockets
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Jon wrote:
Only kidding! Actually, I'm quite happy with WM2D. Yes, it has its quirks and limitations which can be frustrating at times. But, wasting days or weeks in the shop to discover something does not work that WM2D could have indicated in minutes would fail can be frustrating too!
ken
Whose army?......even the army is using it to test clearances for their rockets
Only kidding! Actually, I'm quite happy with WM2D. Yes, it has its quirks and limitations which can be frustrating at times. But, wasting days or weeks in the shop to discover something does not work that WM2D could have indicated in minutes would fail can be frustrating too!
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ