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Hello,
I am posting here two incomplete drawings. You can make it complete with some additions. I assured you that it is a (part) drawing of working pmm. With some additions you can make it workable. I will give some clues to complete this machine.
It is just for fun.
But it is a actual drawing of working model.
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I make a perpetual motion machine. like b w. It is a very simple mechanism. It is on paper since 1998 . My first prototype is not working because of small error. Now I am trying to make its final working model .
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Gentlemen start your engines

If Snpssaini already proved this, we should have no trouble finding the missing link.
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First biggest clue.
The mechanism of moving the wheel is inside the wheel .
Outer mechanism is accelerator and brake.
(At the end of main shaft)
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I completed the drawing and WOW!!!! It's working!!!! :)
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Where is the brake and acc....LOL
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There are missing parts:
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OOps!
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Madmax...

Nice composite image you made. But, shouldn't the rodent be pointing in the other direction?



snpssaini wrote:
I assured you that it is a (part) drawing of working pmm.
But, how can you "assure" us that it is a working pmm if you have not yet built it? Also, we take claims of "working" devices here rather seriously. You make it sound like it is currently working. Do you not really mean that it may work when constructed.

Well, since there are parts missing, there is no way that I or anybody else here can evaluate the design. What is the principle upon which it is supposed to operate? Does it become top heavy or does the CG of the wheel move out horizontally to the left or right of the axle? Why must it be over 16 feet high? Shouldn't a smaller model also be able to work?


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On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:

Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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Ken wrote:
But, shouldn't the rodent be pointing in the other direction?
It's bi-directional version of the wheel :-)
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This is a challenge.
I know nothing about it, but it holds many basic gravity ideas.
Maybe one is just simply fall and stop.
However it may be a good idea.
Below is image no. 5 from snpssaini's web page.
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Wheeler...

Unfortunately, that fifth image also tells us nothing except that the device, apparently, is meant to rotate when in operation. I can only assume that it is some sort of overbalanced wheel. But, how is the imbalance created and maintained?


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On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:

Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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If you were to go back to postings made in May of 2005, you will find this same drawing as well as the other installments. We were promised the final drawing in April which we never recieved And I referred to it as an "April fools Joke"

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Ralph...

You're right. I do remember seeing this material last year. At that time we were also "assured" that it would work and given a few incomplete pictures. But, I think he included a link to his website then where more pictures were supposed to be added.

Well, it's now almost a year later and we still do not have any new information about the alleged device. Something is fishy here...


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On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:

Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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Now that you mention it, I just realized You and Ken both usually welcome new ideas, and begin with consideration on a positive note.
snpssaini must of forgotten to mention that he had already posted this design.
However I on a complete reversal of my usual doubt, think this has some kind of hidden system that may make it work.

I see at first glance a two part system of spin and weight drop. Possibly a four system falling. Where each fall is carried through by an internal and external weight.
The internal weight may use the ring of the wheel (which could be magnets) as a pull while crank mounted weight falls.
If a series of fall could continue around, maybe it would cause a rotation.
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If you dont mind sspssaini i will take these 8 drawings you have published and try a 3d model of what you have given.

Just one question - does the machine use magnets in any way?

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