Complete this drawing and make the machine.

A Bessler, gravity, free-energy free-for-all. Registered users can upload files, conduct polls, and more...

Moderator: scott

Post Reply
snpssaini
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 106
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:16 pm
Location: Delhi, India
Contact:

Re: re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by snpssaini »

ovyyus wrote:snpssaini, you can be sure that people will not ignore your drawings after you prove that your design can work. Drip-feeding the forum more cryptic clues (as if it isn't already drowning in them) will get us nowhere.

What is the size, speed and torque of your wheel?
Ovyyus,
Can you just tell me if the wheel size is 5 meters and a weight of 30 kg on its left or right edge continuously, what will be the speed and torque of the wheel.
Thanks,
Snpssaini
I make a perpetual motion machine. like b w. It is a very simple mechanism. It is on paper since 1998 . My first prototype is not working because of small error. Now I am trying to make its final working model .
snpssaini
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 106
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:16 pm
Location: Delhi, India
Contact:

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by snpssaini »

4th clue............
Machine is fully automatic, required only start and stop functions.
There is no need of any push or pull of wheel.
Snpssaini
I make a perpetual motion machine. like b w. It is a very simple mechanism. It is on paper since 1998 . My first prototype is not working because of small error. Now I am trying to make its final working model .
ovyyus
Addict
Addict
Posts: 6545
Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:41 am

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by ovyyus »

If your wheel creates a static torque of 30kg at the 5m rim, that's impressive... however... what is it's measured free-running RPM - how many revolutions per minute does it turn? Have you measured it's RPM? How did you measure the 30kg force?

Also, what is the size, speed and torque measurements of your other three models?
snpssaini
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 106
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:16 pm
Location: Delhi, India
Contact:

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by snpssaini »

Ovyyus,
Size is 5 meter ( all wheels)
rpm 20 - 25 (approx.)
Force 30 kg or more(estimated)
No more detail please.
Thanks,
Snpssaini
I make a perpetual motion machine. like b w. It is a very simple mechanism. It is on paper since 1998 . My first prototype is not working because of small error. Now I am trying to make its final working model .
ovyyus
Addict
Addict
Posts: 6545
Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:41 am

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by ovyyus »

Thanks snpssaini. I'm wondering how you manage to stop a 5m wheel going at 25RPM with 30kg of torque at the rim? - whew! - not only would that lift a man off the ground if he tried to stop it at the rim, but it would probably flip him up through the roof and into the next block! :)

Can you post photos of these wheels - they sound utterly amazing! No need to show any secrets or internal workings, of course. If you were to post photos of your wheels you'd surely have everyone's complete attention and then we could get on with playing your clues/guessing game again.
snpssaini
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 106
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:16 pm
Location: Delhi, India
Contact:

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by snpssaini »

Ovyyus,
It is good for me that you are taking me seriously.
There is a difference between photograph and drawings.
Photograph can expose everything. Which I don't want on this stage.
If I will cover the mechanism then no use of photograph.
In my drawings (another clue) a small thing is hidden which can expose the whole trick. (it is in front of you all but it is confusing)
A little problem is language, I can not give you more clues in english because I don't have command on this language, what I want to describe you I can better explain in HINDI.
That I think you don't understand.
I think more clues makes more confusion.
But the all clues are facts of my wheels which can (I think) will help you
Thanks,
Snpssaini
Last edited by snpssaini on Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:36 am, edited 2 times in total.
I make a perpetual motion machine. like b w. It is a very simple mechanism. It is on paper since 1998 . My first prototype is not working because of small error. Now I am trying to make its final working model .
ovyyus
Addict
Addict
Posts: 6545
Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:41 am

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by ovyyus »

Actually snpssaini, I would not go quite so far as to say that I'm taking you seriously - just yet. That's the reason why I suggested that you post some photos of your wheels.

It's not uncommon for unscrupulous people to claim that they have an actual working wheel when in fact all they have is an idea that they think will work and they are trolling here for their benefit alone. How am I to know you have an actual working wheel when you dodge requests for proof to support your claim - actually, that sort of behaviour tends to raise my suspicions about you. This process and it's resultant outcome is becoming boringly repetitive.

Perhaps you can think of a way to support your claim with something more than words and sketches? I for one would find it virtually impossible to take serious interest in your claim unless you are prepared to provide some proof that you have anything more than doodles and patter.
snpssaini
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 106
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:16 pm
Location: Delhi, India
Contact:

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by snpssaini »

Ok, no problem ovyyus,
I joined this forum because I want to share my sweet n sour experiences with others,(which I tasted during this phase of my life) who can understand this topic. Most of the people don't understand that what is this and why I have made this swing.
I don't want any kind of financial help from anybody in making my prototype. But I expect that other members will suggest me that how I go for patent initially.
Next month I will arrange a good amount for this purpose. ( I am selling my property)
If anyone make me some good suggestions for this I will pay him after I go for patent.
Thanks ,
Snpssaini
I make a perpetual motion machine. like b w. It is a very simple mechanism. It is on paper since 1998 . My first prototype is not working because of small error. Now I am trying to make its final working model .
snpssaini
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 106
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:16 pm
Location: Delhi, India
Contact:

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by snpssaini »

5th clue...............
Weights gained force from their own swinging, only one weight will shift all others ,and second will give the power to wheel. Power can increase or decrease even when wheel will be in motion. You can tune the power and speed up to a certain level.
Snpssaini
(I think some people will now understand the mechanism)
I make a perpetual motion machine. like b w. It is a very simple mechanism. It is on paper since 1998 . My first prototype is not working because of small error. Now I am trying to make its final working model .
snpssaini
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 106
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:16 pm
Location: Delhi, India
Contact:

Re: re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by snpssaini »

ovyyus wrote:Thanks snpssaini. I'm wondering how you manage to stop a 5m wheel going at 25RPM with 30kg of torque at the rim? - whew! - not only would that lift a man off the ground if he tried to stop it at the rim, but it would probably flip him up through the roof and into the next block!
The mechanism of brake in wheel like you are driving your car in 5th gear and you want to stop your car immediately without using brakes you reduce the gear ratio acording to your requirement 4th, 2nd or 1st.
The car will reduce the speed immediately.
But in my machine you can use directly reverse mode. It can stop the machine immediately without any fail.
Snpssaini
I make a perpetual motion machine. like b w. It is a very simple mechanism. It is on paper since 1998 . My first prototype is not working because of small error. Now I am trying to make its final working model .
fAtnhapy
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 246
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:48 pm
Location: Cincinnati Ohio

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by fAtnhapy »

I don't have any problem stopping my wheel eighter.
fAt
User avatar
ken_behrendt
Addict
Addict
Posts: 3487
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:45 am
Location: new jersey, usa
Contact:

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by ken_behrendt »

Snpssaini wrote:
Presently I have four models with the minor change you can make different models.
This time I cannot calculate which will be more powerful.
But all are workable.
Again, I think there is some confusion here. Do you actually have a finished prototype of your wheel design that is working? Or, do you just think it will work?

Can you just tell me if the wheel size is 5 meters and a weight of 30 kg on its left or right edge continuously, what will be the speed and torque of the wheel.
I think I already did some calculations of power output for your 5 meter diameter wheel and came to the conclusion that with 10 kg of force on the rim and a speed of 25 rpm's that it would be producing 1.13 horsepower (international) or 841 watts of power. With a force of 25 kg on the rim, that figure would just increase by a factor of 2.5 to 2102.5 watts.

Weights gained force from their own swinging, only one weight will shift all others ,and second will give the power to wheel. Power can increase or decrease even when wheel will be in motion.
This is still very vague. We need more details...


ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:

Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
User avatar
Gravmaster2000
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 135
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:23 am
Location: Just looking over your shoulder..

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by Gravmaster2000 »

Ok, I have been watching this thread for a good while, along with others.
I don't post much here but this is getting real annoying. Are we going to play 20 questions with you Snpssaini? Apparently yes. Are we all waiting with baited breath at each post you make-this may be 'the one' we all hope for? Again, I'd say yes. We are all hooked and you are reeling us in you have our attention-no need for all this-you may find that attention waning if more concrete proof is not shown-update your website, and post a VIDEO of your wheel-no sound is fine. I want to see it tied down, started, going up to speed and left alone for 1 minute, then braked down (or reversed, whatever) and stopped. Go ahead and cover EVERYTHING if you want. just show it running. Give all of us here some hope that you are not just another person coming in here, saying 'I have it', bait us on, then fade out. You don't want to be in the 'fraud' category-it smells in there!

WHEW! ok, I feel better, and I'm sure most here feel the same to varying degrees...

Gravmaster 2000 (WOW! the spell checker doesn't have the word 'website' in it????)
I hope to see something work soon-by someone!!

All hail Mighty Mouse! (Just don't get me angry!)
snpssaini
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 106
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:16 pm
Location: Delhi, India
Contact:

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by snpssaini »

Once 2 friends were chatting and suddenly one(A) asked a question to the other(P). The question was, name the most powerful man on Earth,
P kept thinking and said they are so many ... . .humm i want small clue.
Then A replied ok P, his name has letter S.
P kept thinking and then said hummm...... well A i got that Its OSAMA for sure.
Then A said nops.
P got annoyed and said well i cant figure that out give me another clue
A agreed and said "he must be an american who else can be powerful"
P again kept thinking but he was not able to come to any conclusion
then he said to A all americans are powerful give me another clue.
Then A said his name also has letter B,now P was again confused and demanded the last clue.
A said letter U come b/w B and S
hummmmm BUS are you talking about any vehicle A ?
NO (said A)
well A i cant tell with those clues in coming 300 years and if you want solution that give me a clue which can be justified or you want to continue confusing me.
OK last clue P letter H comes in the last of the name(said A)
GEORGE BUSH . ........ (screamed P) you know A i got that without half of the total clues ha ha... i am a champ isnt it A
yes you are P, you told the answer without any major clue.
Snpssaini
Last edited by snpssaini on Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:33 pm, edited 3 times in total.
I make a perpetual motion machine. like b w. It is a very simple mechanism. It is on paper since 1998 . My first prototype is not working because of small error. Now I am trying to make its final working model .
Wheeler
Devotee
Devotee
Posts: 1412
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:27 pm
Location: USA

re: Complete this drawing and make the machine.

Post by Wheeler »

The system exists already.

It is not up to Snpssaini to show it.
It is up to us to know it.

Mastersnpssaini
Can we assume that enough clues are within the drawing as the morrow of the story?
JB Wheeler
it exists I think I found it.
Post Reply