marketing of a free energy generator

[albente]

The only way to market such a device (given that a working prototype should exist in the first place) would be to sell it as a any energy amplifier of some sort.

Even though any bright mind immediately would argue that one cannot get more out of a wall socket than is provided in the first place the average Joe could be sold on that concept quite easily, particularly when facing ever increasing electricity cost.

In other words, it could be a box that contains a working wheel, that is plugged in an outlet to start it and it probably should even consume a certain amount of electricity in order to keep the concept credible.

Amplification is an accepted concept while free energy is not (except by a few free thinkers). Why bother going out and become a missionary when one can trick the situation?

Only during a blackout Joe would notice that his magic box would still be generating energy, if the deliberately built in resistor (that provides the artificial consumption) deactivates under such circumstances let's say. Or even better, it could be deactivated in a simple way and this info would circulate among people who know each other.

Sort of the marketing approach of google-mail (gmail) that is only available through personal recommendation. It is simply the best way to spread it since self regulating (just like Wikipedia does not show any signs of abuse, but all this leads too far off topic and I'll leave it there).

[ken_behrendt]

albente wrote:

The only way to market such a device (given that a working prototype should exist in the first place) would be to sell it as a any energy amplifier of some sort.

Calling something an "energy amplifier" is equivalent to saying that it is adding energy to one's ordinary source. The next question the owner would ask is "Where is that extra energy coming from?". It would not be long before people realized that you were selling an OU device.

If I had such a device, I would try to make it into the smallest portable gravity motor/220 VAC generator possible. The homeowner would then be able to plug it into his circuit breaker box and power his entire home with it. In the event that it failed, the regular power company line would kick in to supply the electricity to the home.


ken

[jim_mich]

Energy amplifier? That sounds like a certain patent I read. It says you hook this special transformer up to the electric line, and you get a greater quantity of energy out. The inventor was from South America IIRC. I have a copy of the patent on my computer, but I've never indexed all my (100+) patent copies, so I have to look at each patent to find the right one.

I'll post it if I can find it.

[Wheeler]

I actually was given a energy amplifier and used it today in a house where I was working.
It worked.
It put out about 100 times more than put into it.

[AgingYoung]

Wheeler,

I actually was given a energy amplifier and used it today in a house where I was working.
It worked.
It put out about 100 times more than put into it.

You should let those day laborers break for lunch and you should always pay them!

There are devices that filter the power and increase efficiency for induction motors. There is also a company that sells large power filters. The devices store spikes in the power in very high speed low friction flywheels. When there is low power the flywheels run generators and 'give back' the power. They can handle brown outs also. Their units are the size of a large overseas container.

Gene

[jim_mich]

Here is that patent.

It is an object of this invention to provide apparatus and method which increase the power factor of a circuit.

A further object of the invention is the inclusion of a transformer in an alternating electrical circuit which improves the voltage and current wave form of the circuit -- particularly at distant points of delivery.

A still further object and advantage of the invention is the provision of means to intensify electrical current output by the selective adding of the magnetic flux of a permanent magnet to that induced in a transformer to intensify the electrical current delivered from the transformer.

A yet further advantage of the invention lies in the delivery of an electrical current from a transformer of an intensity above that which would be otherwise expected from a number of secondary windings involved.

Another major advantage of the invention lies in the delivery of electrical power to rural and other areas where the price of electricity is high. In such locations, expenditures for conversion required to practice the instant invention are quickly regained from the savings in cost to the powerhouse in supply requirements.

This is a 1964 patent. So everyone is free to use it now.

[rlortie]

Wow!

I think I have the answer, connect one of ken's wheels to a generator, then connect the generator to wheelers 100 X power amplifier. plug a reflected heating coil into the amplifier and aim the coil at the descending side of the wheel. The heat will increase the mass weight and the wheel will spin as long as the generator has brushes.

Or should I post this in "off Topic" under "Jokes"..

Ralph

[AgingYoung]

Ralph,

I think you're going to have to run that heating element thru the amplifier a couple of times before you aim it at the descending side. Maybe use a laser aimed at platinum spheres 3 or 4 microns in diameter. This could be it.

Gene

[SeaWasp]

ROTFLMOL! Nice one Ralph!

[Wheeler]

Might work Ralph, but I think the crow bar would fly off the page when it caught in the spokes.
Maybe a chain could suspend it over a balance point.

[rlortie]

Jim_mich,

After taking the time to find and post the power energy amplifier patent, I show my appreciation by responding with the following info:

I find your 1964 patent to describe a modified "Saturable reactor". As described in Rufus P. Turner's second edition of "Basic Electricity"1957.

A special type of transformer in which the principle of magnetic saturation is employed to control the flow of an alternating current.

A three legged core is employed. The a-c winding (L2) is wound on the center leg and is connected in series with the a-c source and load. The amount of current passing into the load thus depends upon the reactance of (L2). The control winding is split into two sections; one half (L1) is wound on one outside leg, and the other half (L3) on the other outside leg. L1 and L3 are connected in a series-bucking so as to remove from the D-C INPUT terminals any a-c voltage induced in L1 and L3 by alternating current in L2.

Magnetic Amplifier:

When the core to the saturable reactor is made from a special high permeability alloy Having a hysteresis loop with steep sides, it will saturate with quite small values of control current. This allows large values of load current to be controlled with small often tiny, levels of control current. This is a condition of amplification.

Such magnetic amplifiers have come into wide civilian and military use since the end of World War II.

It has been my contention for years that Tom Beardon took a simple saturation reactor and replaced the center core (L2) with a permanent magnet and passed it off as his great MEG invention.

Ralph

[rlortie]

Wheeler,

Please excuse my old age senility, the fact that I have a low IQ and am to dumb to understand, but what connection does:

"the crow bar would fly off the page when it caught in the spokes".

Have to do with my Rube Goldberg depiction of a wheel/generator and heater?

Thank you for your patience!

Ralph

[Wheeler]

I don't know Ralph
I was just trying to put a play on
some words that didn't work.
Sorry

[ken_behrendt]

Guys...

I'm sure that our present day, "conventional" electrical power distribution system could be greatly improved. I think I read somewhere that for every watt of power used in a home, about 2 watts are wasted in the transmission process! If every home had its own small power plant, then that would automatically cut the waste by 66.66% and would provide a system incapable of failure over a wide region.

I read an article a few years ago about how approximately 10% of a home electrical bill goes to pay just for the electrical power lost through hysterisis in the power supply transformers of equipment when it is not in use. Some inventor had a gadget that could be plugged into the wall outlet which would block the flow of current to the equipment until it was actually turned on. So far, I do not know of anybody using the gadget, but if a home's incoming power supply could be fitted with one, it would, supposedly, cut the home electrical power bill by 10%.

In the future we will read of all sorts of amazing devices to improve the energy usage of our homes, cars, and equipment. Most likely, unless they are truly revolutionary, about 99.9% of them will never make it to market...


ken

[rlortie]

Ken,

You make a good point! As our electronics improve and our bodies get lazier so does the need for power supply transformers that are connected 24/7

I just got to thinking of my own number and was quite shocked at the total low voltage transformers in use.
1 door bell, five cordless phones, three tv dish translators, three TV remote monitors, two furnace thermostats, two in computer towers. Five under my PC desk for printer, DSL, 10 key printer calculator, audio speakers. Four more at my wifes computer station. Two for irrigation timers and one for fish pond pump. Oh! and two more for garage door openers.

Not included here is the fact that new wiring codes call for smoke detectors in each livable or sleeping room, That must be interconnected. I have eight of them that are constantly drawing energy.

Now if my recall and count is correct that is a total of 3o plus smoke detector, 9 to 24 volt power supplies that are constantly connected to hot circuits. Then there are the remote low voltage switching on my air compressor, garage heater and irrigation pump that are switched on when another low voltage supply activates them. Just think if I had a few more I could heat me house with them and disconnect from the natural gas supply!

Ralph