DISCLOSURE working magnet pmm video

[epistemologicide]

jim the loads are quick time,

[AlanR]

this link has some claims about the integrity of the Perendev business model

http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet ... rendev.htm


i dont know waht to think.
i guess time will tell.
beats me.

[VergingOnDone]

I think this one seems close in nature to the minato wheel idea, I wonder if in reality it comes to a stop after all like minato's does and needs a kick or additional small force to continue the spinning why else does it not get out to the smaller guys who try to buy it.

On the otherhand if it is going into manufacturing with a german firm we'll have to wait and see. I'm curious about it though.

You know how minato's wheel needs a little kick at a certain point to continue? I wonder if he ever thought to try an off-center arm attachment to pump the opposing magnet with an arm hinged slightly off center of the middle axle so that the magnetic force is always just slightly behind in cycle to the force.

If it were in front of the force it would surely stop, equal to the force would cancel, but i think if it was always slightly trailing the force it might continue.
Just another thought.

[Oxygon]

OK, I see two problems and yet I agree this is a possible solution...

First, I would assume that the "vibration" would be a problem, and as for the cliams of perendev-power.com... I can tell you I dont belive "the whole" of energy output cliams... I think they are just blowing smoke... for all the usual reasons.

Second, Assuming this is simular to the idea I had a long time ago about this method, when actually tied to a generator it'll be difficult to produce any energy without stalling the machine... I dont know how much excess energy we are talking about here...

But hey, I do believe they may have found it...

(fingers crossed)

Only time will tell.

[sch_freeenergy]

Just want to post an update.

www.perendev-power.com - those guys have their own website and claim having working models. However, you can not buy them. Or can you?

[ken_behrendt]

I visited the site and it looks like the "new" and improved Perendev motor will be out soon. The small one will crank out about 20 kw! Wow! Just what I need to help keep my home energy bills down.

I'll believe it when I finally (if ever!) see it!


ken

[rks1878]

I think that if this wasn't a scam, they would be freer with their information.

The "working model" looks like a sham to me.

robert

[PIMAN]

The NEW new model may even be small enough to fit in the heel of a shoe. This one will draw it's energy not from the (a)ether or zero point fluctuations, but from the excessive pull that the inventor(s) induces on the observers leg, causing an equal and opposite yank of their proverbial chain.

This is as bad as the SMEGMA (SPEGG? Whatever) wheel that was supposedly "unveiled" in London a year or so ago. "All we need is a little more money.... blah blah blah"

I don't think anyone with a working device will be in search of funding, and I doubt the device will be seen first on the PESN web site. What the hell ever happened to the "Hummingbird" motor. Last I checked, those losers were selling magnetic toys and trinkets, but no mention of the miraculous motor. Maybe they are still raising money. Dig deep.


PIMAN

[rlortie]

Piman,

What the hell ever happened to the "Hummingbird" motor. Last I checked, those losers were selling magnetic toys and trinkets, but no mention of the miraculous motor. Maybe they are still raising money. Dig deep.

Believe me the Hummingbird motor and the Sundance Generator are alive and well. Dennis Lee is heading out on his annual tour and is coming to Portland Oregon shortly.

The only difference is that now Dennis prays on the religious as he is now a self aclaimed messenger of God! He will gladly sell you a dealership if you wish to (as you say) dig deep in the name of your savior.

Incidently I am an old time member of Eric Kriegs watchdog Group.

Ralph

[ken_behrendt]

PIMAN wrote:

This is as bad as the SMEGMA (SPEGG? Whatever) wheel that was supposedly "unveiled" in London a year or so ago.

I have not heard about this one yet...sounds interesting.

I agree with the observation that anybody who actually has a working device will not be looking for research funding. Rather, they will be selling stock in a corporation to begin production and, perhaps, increasing the size/power output of the device. In the USA, if one starts a corporation and there is fraud of shareholders involved with it, then there can be serious criminal penalties for the company officials to deal with. One should be wary of one-man operations that are not incorporated...


ken

[graham]

Ken, you can read all about the SPEGG here.

http://www.environenergy.org.uk/

Graham

[rks1878]

Graham,

Thanks for that link to the spegg.

After studying the animations, it is my opinion that this is also a sham.
Why? Well, just look at all those MASSIVELY DETAILED drawings...it just has to work!!!!!!

Some claimants show too little, some tooooooooooo much to be credible.

Give us a break environenergy. However, you do get high marks for the quality of the drawings and animations. Way to go.

robert

[ken_behrendt]

Graham...

Thanks for the link. I checked it out and found the following self-contradictory description of the device:

First one reads:

We at Environ Energy are not claiming that we have created a new form of technology that gives out more than it puts in.

Then they state:

We have invented a technology that when connected to a generator it produces electricity without the need for any external fuel.

The Waranlinc Wheel has 16 arms 8 of the 1 6 arms has a bullet in it, these bullets run backward and forward.
When the wheel spins it avoids equilibrium in other words one side of the wheel is kept heavy at all times.

In other words, first we are told it is not OU, then we are told it is!

Something, literally, does not add up here...


ken

[rlortie]

The Waranlinc Wheel with it's 16 arms has been around just about as long as "Fur lined bathtubs to Keep the water warm"

If there were any thing to it it would have been a household name 30 years ago.

Ralph

[ken_behrendt]

Well, I downloaded some of the animations of the Waranlinc Wheel, but I am still not clear about how it is supposed to work. It looks like a simple overbalancing design...but, how is the imbalance created?

Hmmm...fur lined bathtubs. Now why didn't I think of that?!


ken