DISCLOSURE working magnet pmm video

[Fletcher]

Pneumatics/compressed air.

[ken_behrendt]

Thanks, Fletcher. I think I get it now. The "bullets" are weights that are shifted via the action of compressed air. Well, it requires energy to compress air for this action, so that will probably use up any energy generated by the overbalancing of the wheel.

I think Leibnitz originally thought that Bessler's wheels used a similar system when he first heard about them. However, his personal testing of the device quickly dispelled that notion and he became a loyal Bessler supporter thereafter.


ken

[ovyyus]

Ken, Leibniz never personally tested Bessler's wheel.

Edit: sorry you, jumped in before I was finished :)

[ken_behrendt]

Bill...

No? I could swear I read somewhere that Leibnitz visited Bessler and was allowed to spend a few hours playing with one of his wheels. Maybe I'm wrong about that...


ken

[ovyyus]

My understanding is that Wolff was Leibniz's eyes and ears on the ground.

[rlortie]

Leibniz, Gottfried Wilhelm, also Leibnitz, Baron Gottfried Wilhelm von (1646-1716), German philosopher, mathematician, and statesman, regarded as one of the supreme intellects of the 17th century.
Leibniz was born in Leipzig. He was educated at the universities of Leipzig, Jena, and Altdorf. Beginning in 1666, the year in which he was awarded a doctorate in law, he served Johann Philipp von Schönborn, archbishop elector of Mainz, in a variety of legal, political, and diplomatic capacities. In 1673, when the elector's reign ended, Leibniz went to Paris. He remained there for three years and also visited Amsterdam and London, devoting his time to the study of mathematics, science, and philosophy. In 1676 he was appointed librarian and privy councillor at the court of Hannover. For the 40 years until his death, he served Ernest Augustus, duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg, later elector of Hannover, and George Louis, elector of Hannover, later George I, king of Great Britain.
Leibniz was considered a universal genius by his contemporaries. His work encompasses not only mathematics and philosophy but also theology, law, diplomacy, politics, history, philology, and physics.
Mathematics
Leibniz's contribution in mathematics was to discover, in 1675, the fundamental principles of infinitesimal calculus. This discovery was arrived at independently of the discoveries of the English scientist Sir Isaac Newton, whose system of calculus was invented in 1666. Leibniz's system was published in 1684, Newton's in 1687, and the method of notation devised by Leibniz was universally adopted (see Mathematical Symbols). In 1672 he also invented a calculating machine capable of multiplying, dividing, and extracting square roots, and he is considered a pioneer in the development of mathematical logic.
Philosophy
In the philosophy expounded by Leibniz, the universe is composed of countless conscious centers of spiritual force or energy, known as monads. Each monad represents an individual microcosm, mirroring the universe in varying degrees of perfection and developing independently of all other monads. The universe that these monads constitute is the harmonious result of a divine plan. Humans, however, with their limited vision, cannot accept such evils as disease and death as part of a universal harmony. This Leibnizian universe, "the best of all possible worlds," is satirized as a utopia by the French author Voltaire in his novel Candide (1759).
Important philosophical works by Leibniz include Essays in Theodicy on the Goodness of God, the Liberty of Man, and the Origin of Evil (2 vol., 1710; translated in Philosophical Works, 1890), Monadology (1714; published in Latin as Principia Philosophiae, 1721; translated 1890), and New Essays Concerning Human Understanding (1703; published 1765; translated 1916). The latter two greatly influenced German philosophers of the 18th century, including Christian von Wolff and Immanuel Kant.



"Leibniz, Gottfried Wilhelm," Microsoft(R) Encarta(R) 97 Encyclopedia. (c) 1993-1996 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

[rlortie]

Wolff, Christian von (1679-1754), German rationalist philosopher and mathematician, born in Breslau (now Wroclaw, Poland), and educated at the University of Jena. In 1706 he became professor of mathematics and natural philosophy at the University of Halle. Wolff's rationalist doctrines gradually came into sharp conflict with the religious views of some of his faculty colleagues. In 1721 he delivered a lecture in which he cited the moral axioms of Confucius as proof that human reason could attain moral truth by its own efforts. As a result, he was banished from Prussia in 1723 on grounds of atheism and fatalism. He went to Hesse and taught at the University of Marburg until 1740. In that year Frederick II, king of Prussia, recalled Wolff to Halle, where, in 1743, he became chancellor of the university.
Wolff's philosophy is a modification of the philosophic system developed by the German philosopher Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz. Although he was not an original thinker, Wolff was important as an organizing and systematizing philosopher. His voluminous writings include Vernünftige Gedanken von Gott, der Welt, und der Seele des Menschen (Rational Thoughts on God, the World, and the Souls of Men, 1719).



"Wolff, Christian von," Microsoft(R) Encarta(R) 97 Encyclopedia. (c) 1993-1996 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

[rlortie]

Leibniz, Gottfried Wilhelm, also Leibnitz, Baron Gottfried Wilhelm von (1646-1716),

Wolff, Christian von (1679-1754),

Leibniz or Leibnitz was 70 years old when he died in 1716 which puts it close to the same time Bessler was demontrating his wheel. Wolff was 33 years younger or 37 at the time Leibnitz died.

Note in the above article what it states that where Leibnitz was at and what he was doing at the time Bessler made his debute.

Ralph

[rks1878]

Ken, Leibniz never personally tested Bessler's wheel.

Edit: sorry you, jumped in before I was finished :)

The account of Leibniz' visit with Bessler is on pp. 52 and 53 of John's book PMAAMS.

The familiar..."Orffyreus is a friend of mine, and he allowed me, sometime ago, to carry out some experiments with his machine." &c.
(Leibniz letter to Areskine, the personal physician to Peter the Great.)

robert

[John Collins]

Thank you Robert. Leibniz visited Bessler as is recorded in the history books.

"On his way to Hanover, Leibniz stopped off at Zeitz to renew old friendships and to see Orffyreus' machine in action. He stayed at Zeitz from the 9th to the 12th September, 1714....."

and in a letter which was written some time after the event, 4th Aug 1716, he wrote

"Orffyreus is a friend of mine, and he allowed me, sometime ago, to carry out some experiments with his machine. It ran continuously for two hours in my presence and demonstrated considerable power. However, I could not remain there to observe it moving any longer because I was travelling in the coach and with a gentleman of the Duke of Zeitz. I advised him to arrange a test in which his machine would be run for several weeks with all possible precautions taken to exclude any suspicion of fraud. At the same time, data could be obtained about the machine's performance and its power. Once this has been accomplished I am sure that several princes could combine their resources, as he requests, in order to pay him a worthy recompense for his invention. Even if this device is not a perpetual motion machine, about which there is so much talk at the present time, it would be still be of great use if it could pass this test of several weeks. He has promised me that he will arrange such a test."

Leibniz definitely saw the wheel and was allowed to carry out some tests on it over a period of two hours.

You won't find any reference to Leibniz's visit to Bessler, because it doesn't fit in with the picture the academics would have us believe of their hero. Imagine the disgrace if it was learned that he was testing a perpetual motion machine! The only reason we know of the visit is because he mentions it in one of his letters. Fortunately they were all saved and are available to be read. Not one letter by Leibniz which mentions Bessler has ever been published, until my own efforts. This is scandalous in my opinion.

John Collins

[AgingYoung]

John,

You would think (if you were an idealistic person) that authority responsible for handling the truth would be honest and tell it how it was. There are a lot of cases where they just won't do that. When authority makes up the rules as it suits them they create what I call trickle down anarchy.

Your efforts are commendable.

Gene

[ovyyus]

Thanks John & Robert. Sorry Ken, I was wrong - forgot about that letter.

[ken_behrendt]

Ralph...

Thanks for the capsule bio's on Leibnitz, etc. He, like Bessler and Newton, was certainly a remarkable historical figure. However, I find it odd that during my own early scientific training, he is only mentioned in passing with respect to the notation used in the calculus.

Aside from finding the secret of Bessler wheels, I often think how cool it would be if we did have backwards time travel and could return to the late 16th / early 17th centuries and actually get to meet these men. I suspect that our impressions would be far different than the ones we form from reading the historical accounts of them...


ken

[rlortie]

Where as the title of this thread is "DISCLOSURE working magnet pmm video" I always felt that it should have been started in "Off Topic". But to go with the flow I will post this tid-bit here. I Just picked it up off one of my other forums.

I am not a believer of the Lutec design, nor do I have any farther information on it.

There is a new video as of March 19 on the Lutec site
supposedly showing the motor putting out over 1000 W,
making an ungodly racket and lighting a bunch of
bulbs. Cool if true! (or is it just a stock scam?)

Posted By; G Crowder on Minatowheel.com

http://www.lutec.com.au/index.htm

[ken_behrendt]

Ralph...

On their site, they claim:

There are a couple of other major factors that we won’t go into here, suffice it to say that our current prototype demonstrates 1500% more “out” than “in”...

One must be very careful when trying to calculate / measure power outputs for devices that produce out of phase, varying currents / voltages. The only really scientific way to do this is to use the power output to see how much heat energy a claimed OU device will transfer to a liquid medium in a certain period of time. This is covered in the branch of chemistry known as calorimetry. When these kinds of tests are actually done (which is only rarely in connection with the testing of alleged OU devices), it is usually seen that the so-called "Over Unity" output is really just an "Under Unity" output and not a very efficient one at that!


ken