And it will go on and on and on and on...4th clue............
Machine is fully automatic, required only start and stop functions.
There is no need of any push or pull of wheel.
Complete this drawing and make the machine.
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Wheeler, I think you're about to break the schnappi's code.
Marchello E.
-- May the force lift you up. In case it doesn't, try something else.---
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Nothing can stop it.
JB Wheeler
it exists I think I found it.
it exists I think I found it.
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This may be a rare shot of the use of the external brake system.
JB Wheeler
it exists I think I found it.
it exists I think I found it.
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Why should the wheels be above ground?
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everything is a wheel :p
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Orffyre, who's turning wheels, spoke to Bessler: "Do not try to turn the wheel--that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth."
Bessler asked him, "What truth?"
And Orffyre, "That there is no wheel."
Bessler thought about this. "There is no wheel."
Orffyre continued: "Then you will see that it is not the wheel that turns--it is only yourself."
Bessler asked him, "What truth?"
And Orffyre, "That there is no wheel."
Bessler thought about this. "There is no wheel."
Orffyre continued: "Then you will see that it is not the wheel that turns--it is only yourself."
Marchello E.
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So, another case of "What the Bleep do we know?" ... let's jump down the rabbit's hole
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Jim wrote:
ken
I totally agree. Bessler's wheels were merely converting some form of environmental energy into the mechanical energy that the devices outputted. However, that energy source was one that the world of the early 18th century would have been completely unfamiliar with.Scientifically speaking perpetual motion isn't posible. The invention must then be some type of energy convertor, energy amplifier or an engine.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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OK guys
I don't get it.
The April clues are here,but everyone seems to ignore it.
Am I missing something again?
Or What?
I thought we were all waiting for the April clues!
I agree with Ken and Jim that you must have a fuel to make a wheel turn.
The fuel is gravity.
Simply and exactly gravity (as we call it now) will soon be known as a fuel.
I don't get it.
The April clues are here,but everyone seems to ignore it.
Am I missing something again?
Or What?
I thought we were all waiting for the April clues!
I agree with Ken and Jim that you must have a fuel to make a wheel turn.
The fuel is gravity.
Simply and exactly gravity (as we call it now) will soon be known as a fuel.
JB Wheeler
it exists I think I found it.
it exists I think I found it.
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Wheeler,
OK guys
I don't get it.
What do you not get. do you expect a standing ovation of excitement
The April clues are here,but everyone seems to ignore it.
Where as you are the one most involved in the repeated scenario, I for one am waiting on you to figure out the clues.
Am I missing something again?
Or What?
Apparently you have a short term memory and do not remember last April. We did get a little more this year but nothing I can see of tangible importance.
I thought we were all waiting for the April clues!
You received them, now what are you going to do with them. If you are awaiting help in deciphering them I am afraid you may have a long wait.
I did not loose any sleep in anticipation, Also knowing that you were on top of this, let me go about what I considered more important.
All you have ended up with is a picture of a large hamster wheel with cranks on both ends. Exactly what was presented last year!
Ralph
OK guys
I don't get it.
What do you not get. do you expect a standing ovation of excitement
The April clues are here,but everyone seems to ignore it.
Where as you are the one most involved in the repeated scenario, I for one am waiting on you to figure out the clues.
Am I missing something again?
Or What?
Apparently you have a short term memory and do not remember last April. We did get a little more this year but nothing I can see of tangible importance.
I thought we were all waiting for the April clues!
You received them, now what are you going to do with them. If you are awaiting help in deciphering them I am afraid you may have a long wait.
I did not loose any sleep in anticipation, Also knowing that you were on top of this, let me go about what I considered more important.
All you have ended up with is a picture of a large hamster wheel with cranks on both ends. Exactly what was presented last year!
Ralph
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Ralph.. I think that Wheeler is being a little sarcastic in his last post. Judging by his very appropriate picture clues! IMO I think he is rattling snpssaini's cage a little..
I suspect that snpssaini has got a very general idea about how the wheel "should" work, and he is fishing for us to fill in the blanks.
snspssaini.. Please correct me if I am wrong on this! But please provide some more tangible clues.. Besslers clues are about as much as I can handle right now!
Spiros.
I suspect that snpssaini has got a very general idea about how the wheel "should" work, and he is fishing for us to fill in the blanks.
snspssaini.. Please correct me if I am wrong on this! But please provide some more tangible clues.. Besslers clues are about as much as I can handle right now!
Spiros.
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I am having a box filled with something (guess what ?) Now if you can tell me what is inside it, then all the APPLES are yours, and if you can even tell me that how many they are then all 20 APPLES will be yours.
Snpssaini
Snpssaini
I make a perpetual motion machine. like b w. It is a very simple mechanism. It is on paper since 1998 . My first prototype is not working because of small error. Now I am trying to make its final working model .
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I wouldn't be surprised. I've heard of people wanting to charge you for a gift and a gift that doesn't even exist. Anything's possible.Simply and exactly gravity (as we call it now) will soon be known as a fuel.
Gene
edit: I don't want the box but I do want to guess. I love guessing games. What you're calling 'apples' are really 'road apples' and what you're calling '20 each' is actually '20 pounds' and what your calling a 'box' is actually a '10 pound sack.' Am I close?
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[It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.
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Ralph I am not sure of the clues,but Snpssaini seems to be confident this year.
You are correct I do not remember last years posts from Snpssaini.
Gene was correct in that I was just being a little sarcastic in my posted image.
However I think Snpssaini has just told us that he has given us the answer in all his clues.
In other words the clues tell you exactly what the answer is.
his last clue was;
In other words, (I am giving you the answer.
Other clues seem to indicate a pendulum system like I attached below.
Here are the clues he gives that leave out the pendulum, but say it without saying it.
and maybe the more pendulums, the more power.
You are correct I do not remember last years posts from Snpssaini.
Gene was correct in that I was just being a little sarcastic in my posted image.
However I think Snpssaini has just told us that he has given us the answer in all his clues.
In other words the clues tell you exactly what the answer is.
his last clue was;
I am having a box filled with something (guess what ?) Now if you can tell me what is inside it, then all the APPLES are yours, and if you can even tell me that how many they are then all 20 APPLES will be yours.
In other words, (I am giving you the answer.
Other clues seem to indicate a pendulum system like I attached below.
Here are the clues he gives that leave out the pendulum, but say it without saying it.
nd clue.......
There is no spring, rope and magnate used in the mechanism of this machine.
5th clue...............
Weights gained force from their own swinging, only one weight will shift all others ,and second will give the power to wheel. Power can increase or decrease even when wheel will be in motion. You can tune the power and speed up to a certain level.
5th clue...............
Weights gained force from their own swinging, only one weight will shift all others ,and second will give the power to wheel. Power can increase or decrease even when wheel will be in motion. You can tune the power and speed up to a certain level.
and maybe the more pendulums, the more power.
1 watch + 1 watch + 1 watch + 1 watch = My machine
JB Wheeler
it exists I think I found it.
it exists I think I found it.
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Weights gained force from their own swinging, only one weight will shift all others
yes, maybe there is a manner to really do this. Look at my new thread "Can the movement mentioned by Bessler be this ?". Are we near to the solution ?
Paul