Another gravity wheel?

[Wheeler]

Come mon Man
Let us see this stuff too!
Ain't no fair to just let Me see it.
Your such a teaser
I'm tellin Scott you wont share.

Sc------oootttt!!!
JJ wont share his pictures with usss

[ME]

LOL Wheeler, Can you open that Word-document?

[Wheeler]

Me
It trys to use WM2d to open.
What do you mean can I open the word Doc?
I thought it was a wm2d file.
image below is what I get.
Thanks for trying.
Any suggestions?

[Paul]

guys look at the extension of the file before opening.... The last is .wm2d but the previous file was .doc (word document).

[ken_behrendt]

Guys...

Here's what I got when I used WM2D to Open the SMOT39 file.

To say that I am impressed with this device would be a gross understatement. IF it is not yet another WM2D glitch, then this may actually be a working OU device! At a minimum and because of its simple construction, I think it definitely merits a physical build.

As can be seen from the WM2D Workspace screenshot below, the small end of the rotor was given an electrical charge of -0.0004 C and the nearby spinning "magnet" (small blue rectangle pinned to the pivoted lower small yellow circle) an opposite electrical charge of +0.0004 C.

The rotational velocity graph in the upper right hand corner is for the large yellow circle 12 kg counter weight on the blue rotor lever.

When Run is clicked, the rotor begins to spin CCW and accelerates fairly smoothly. As the rotational velocity of the counter weight approaches 9 rad/sec, the rotor lever's pin sudden rides up and over the top of the circular slot at which point there is a sudden drop off in rotational velocity. But, the device again picks up speed until it repeates this behavior.

Is it a glitch? I do not know, but the air resistance was set at "high" so if this is a glitch it's a big one...


ken

[Jon J Hutton]

It has got to be a glitch and a big one.

I have sent a copy to Alan the owner of working model who said he wanted to take a look at it.

He is supposed to get back with me today or tomorrow.

Thanks for posting all the tech and animations on it. As soon as I hear from him I will post his e-mail.

JJH

[Wheeler]

Wow is right
Thanks for bringing that to my attention Paul.
I did open the word doc.

JJ or Ken can you post the exact input to put into wm2d?
I sure would love to try this one.
It looks very good Jon!

PS Jon can you tell us how we can get in touch with Allan at WM2D
We need a way to communicate.
Can you ask him also to visit our forum, and maybe give a little talk, and some handy tips.

It may lead to sales for him!!
Thanks

[ken_behrendt]

Wheeler asked:

JJ or Ken can you post the exact input to put into wm2d?

Actually, there is enough information on that screenshot I posted for you to give it a try. If this is for real, then a little bit of variation in your parts' parameters should not be that critical.

Good luck...this is a very easy WM2D build.


ken

[quercus virginiana]

I was wondering where can we all read the "notes" on the "toy page" where Bessler said that there was something "special" on this page?

quercus

[Wheeler]

Ken
What is the green arrow, and green circle?

quercus
Welcome
I am not sure, but maybe Ken can help.

[ken_behrendt]

Wheeler...

That green circle is a circular slot which you can make using the slot tool on the left of the WM2D Workspace. The green arrow is, I think, supposed to represent a force vector of some sort. I don't think it is important, though.

I've already addressed Quercus' question in another thread.



ken



P.S.

Wheeler...congratulations on making it to the 1000+ post level.

I'm thinking of making up different rankings for members who climb above the 1000 post mark since I am totally turned off by the term "Addict" to describe us. Any suggestions? Maybe a 1000+ poster could be a one star Wheel Wizard, a 2000+ poster a two star Wheel Wizard, etc. I'm open to other suggestions. I think that the ranking names might have a cool "swords and sorcery" sound to them to suggest magic, mechanics, and esoteric knowledge...

[Wheeler]

Well wouldn't this be the glitch in the settings
If the force vector continues to follow the slot, would this not
make the system continue?
I must be wrong.

[ME]

No Glitch in this design...

I traded the slot-ring for a polygon-ring: 1 complete circle is made of 50 points.
I fixed the magnet, because it's rotation is not of any value.
The mass is 16 kg.
The rest is the same.
[Img: JimsSmot2.jpg]

[-Addition-]

Lost this design, and made another variation.
I used pinfriction on the center-wheel as well on the rotation-pivot.
The weight couldn't be 11kg or 12kg, but it works with 11.5kg.
[Img: JimsSmot3.jpg]

[Jon J Hutton]

The green arrow is like adding counter torque as a form of resistance to the rotation of the pendulums swing...its quite straight forward. The only thing that makes me not think it is a glitch is the theory behind what is going on. If you cant find a material to block a magnetic field then you would have to acomplish the same thing by inertia and distance from the magnet doing the pulling, which is what this acomplishes the faster the speed the less the mech needs to pull apart from the magnetic force acomplished by the circular track...its all a matter of ratios. This theory although not new, but maybe in application, will hopefully lead to some interesting discoveries.

Still no news from Alan at wm2d.

JJH

[ME]

Still no news from Alan at wm2d.

Look out for a patent in his/their name.
Because this is a very, very interesting design.
That glitch is only happening in the slot-design, because in those 2 other variations of mine these are not present (and no need for some kind of counter-force).